Federal Election 2019/Preselection Meeting 2018-09-16/Log

This is the chat log for the Preselection Meeting which occurred on the 16th of September 2018.

 15:30 <@alexjago> START MEETING 15:30 <@MilesW> gday 15:30 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:31 < AndrewDatThePub> We have smooth jazz here 15:31 <@alexjago> My apologies for not preparing an agenda 15:31 <@MilesW> id like to propose we have a short report back from our sydney crew to open the meeting 15:31 <@MilesW> or would anyone prefer we go directly to preselection business? 15:32 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has joined #PPAU 15:32 <@alexjago> I'm happy to take 5 minutes for Sydney talk to allow time for stragglers 15:32 < BrandonS> I'd agree with that 15:32 < Tania> I'd love to hear from the Sydney people. 15:32 <@MilesW> i nominate johna to take that one, unless he'd like to delegate ;) 15:34 <@alexjago> Candidates, I'll be messaging each of you to verify identity 15:34 < The> John Wilson has joined 15:34 < JohnA> Ok will do. Enjoyed speakers and had a discussion. Did not have pirates than the starters apart from Katherine. But not a great deal of interest in me running for wentworth. Could still call for volunteers if we have an idea of what we need. 15:34 < AndrewDatThePub> John, AndrewD, Sara and Kate are all together in a Sydney pub. 15:35 < The> Copy That. I am aboard my vessel in Brisbane. 15:35 <@MilesW> hello john wilson :) 15:35 <@MilesW> folks john w is a union activist from queensland who i met recently who is very interested in joining and supporting the party 15:35 < The> Miles, thank you for the invite 15:36 < BrandonS> Welcome 15:36 <@MilesW> i believe he is speaking through a voice to text program 15:36 < The> Hi, all. I'm typing tonight. 15:36 <@MilesW> john that sounds really exciting about wentworth. who was interested in you running, and did you discuss your candidate platform? 15:36 < AndrewDatThePub> Who is the The? 15:37 < The> Miles, I am the former President of Trades Hall in Canberra 15:37 -!- The is now known as John 15:37 < John> Just opdated 15:40 <@MilesW> john august, did you discuss the wentworth byelection at speakers corner? 15:40 <@MilesW> and did you discuss your candidate platform? 15:40 < JohnA> Andrew outlined some policy ideas I spoke generally. The agreed threshold here is we need 20 volunteers to be worth running a campaign in wentworth. 15:41 <@MilesW> how did you get 20? did you discuss volunteer allocation between booths? 15:42 < AndrewDatThePub> Started at 5, then diubled until everyone said yes. 15:42 < JohnA> We did not get 20 we said we needed 20. We could put a call out on the forums. 15:43 <@MilesW> haha souds good andrew 15:43 <@alexjago> FWIW, I generally agree with 20. The nomination-reform section of our policy now implies 10 though :) 15:43 <@MilesW> well id like to get an NSW mailout about wentworth call for volunteers drafted asap 15:43 <@MilesW> id also like a post on forums, facebook and the NSW twitter 15:44 <@MilesW> john A, can you arrange to have someone draft the call for volunteers email? it doesnt have to be you 15:44 <@MilesW> id also like you to organise someone to make a post to the facebook group 15:44 <@MilesW> it will be good for your candidate exposure if you do it ;) 15:45 < John> Miles, if this request is for me, then yes of coarse I can 15:45 <@MilesW> sorry john wilson, our wentworth candidate is named john august 15:45 <@MilesW> ill try to type out his full name for the rest of the meeting to avoid confusion 15:45 <@alexjago> John: if you could rename to JohnW that'd be appreciated 15:45 < John> Copy that Miles. Sorry 15:46 <@MilesW> andrewd/john august, id also like to know if either if you have access to NSW twitter. if not can you coordinate with alex to get onto it? 15:46 -!- John is now known as JohnW 15:46 < JohnA> Ok I will draft the letter. 15:46 <@alexjago> OK, shall we commence? 15:46 <@MilesW> soudns good alex. go for it 15:46 < SaraJoyce> Oh good we have a nsw Twitter? Please share 15:46 < AndrewDatThePub> I do not have access 15:47 <@alexjago> OK, BrandonS has requested to go first 15:47 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:48 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has joined #PPAU 15:48 < BrandonS> If that's okay with everyone else 15:48 <@MilesW> yes please 15:48 < KateBowman> Go ahead 15:48 < Tania> Absolutely 15:49 <@alexjago> BrandonS has nominated for a Queensland Senate candidacy. His info is here: https://pirateparty.org.au/wiki/Federal_Election_2019#Brandon_Selic 15:49 < stbernard`> Title: Federal Election 2019 - Pirate Party Australia Wiki (at pirateparty.org.au) 15:50 < BrandonS> Hi, my name's Brandon Selic, I'm a lawyer from Queensland, currently based in Brisbane. I've been a member of Pirate Party Australia since it was formed pretty much, and have previously served as the Queensland State Coordinator and worked on the policy development committee. 15:52 <@MilesW> i guess we have a chance to ask our candidates some questions 15:52 <@MilesW> before we have someone second their nomination 15:52 <@alexjago> I guess I'll ask this question of everybody: "What do you think is fairly rare about yourself that makes you a worthwhile candidate?" 15:53 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:54 Can you repeat the question 15:55 <@alexjago> joefuri: yes, and I'll repeat it each time: "What do you think is fairly rare about yourself that makes you a worthwhile candidate?" 15:55 < JohnW> Is this a question to all current endorsed candidates? 15:55 < BrandonS> I've worked as a community lawyer for the majority of my career, so I'm used to advocating for the positions of people in the community who might otherwise not have their voices heard. I feel I can take this experience to represent the varied positions of the people of Queensland. 15:55 <@alexjago> BrandonS: thanks 15:55 <@MilesW> thanks brandon 15:55 <@MilesW> i have a question as well 15:56 <@MilesW> what would you like the focus of your personal electoral campaign to be? 15:56 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:56 <@MilesW> what issue or policy 15:56 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has joined #PPAU 15:56 <@alexjago> JohnW: we have no current endorsed candidates. This meeting will hopefully give us some. We may run more. 15:56 I've had 40 years experience,dealing with government,and I'm still alive. 15:56 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has joined #PPAU 15:57 < JohnW> Thanks Alex. Population Surveillance & Population Control High Tech 15:57 The failings of the current 2 party system 15:58 <@MilesW> hang on folks. we're just going through the candidates one by one at the moment 15:58 < SaraJoyce> I joined the PPAU in 2013 after a couple of years of working on the Gonski Campaign for the teachers federation working with Gillard and Rudd and many others. After Abbott appointed himself minister for Women I ran a hard campaign to get him to appoint someone else to be appointed garnering 13.000 signatures. I since have worked for local and state 15:58 < SaraJoyce> governments in IT and have been a campaigner for change with lgbti rights, indigenous rights and Women’s Rights. I would also be the first Trans Woman in the senate if elected. 15:59 < SaraJoyce> Sorry if that was out of turn but there ya go 15:59 <@MilesW> do what you want cause a pirate is free (: 16:00 <@alexjago> It's all good, just copy and paste when it's formally your turn 16:00 <@alexjago> Further questions for Brandon? 16:01 < BrandonS> Last time I campaigned because I wanted to show voters that there were alternatives to the two major parties. That hasn't changed, and the situation has only gotten worse. Last time I focused on mariage equality, offshore detention and environmental issues in Queensland. We got one of those. I still feel offshore denetion is a big issue; it's domin 16:01 < BrandonS> ated nearly 20 years of election cycles. But we still have to look at environmental issues in Queesnalnd, and energy issues throughout the country. 16:03 < JohnA> No questions suggest you set a timeout for questions. 16:03 < AndrewDatThePub> Does this need to be sequential? The candidates already wrote their application. Here we get to ask questions. 16:03 < SaraJoyce> seconded 16:04 <@alexjago> We do need to formally nominate and second people 16:04 <@alexjago> Historically we've gone by person, is all 16:04 <@MilesW> ok shall we call for a second for brandons nomination? 16:04 < SaraJoyce> i second 16:04 <@alexjago> Thank you SaraJoyce 16:06 < JohnA> I nominate Sara Joyce. 16:06 <@alexjago> Thank you JohnA. I second SaraJoyce 16:06 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:06 <@alexjago> (I was taking it as implicit that people could self-nominate) 16:06 < AndrewDatThePub> I nominate Kate Bowman 16:06 second 16:07 < AndrewDatThePub> Ok, I second Kate Bowman 16:07 <@MilesW> i nominate myself, Miles Whiticker 16:07 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has joined #PPAU 16:07 < Tania> I will also self nominate. Tania Briese 16:08 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has quit [Client Quit] 16:08 < JohnA> I second miles. 16:08 Ill second that 16:08 * alexjago checks constitution. Yep, it only says that you must be nominated. Self-noms are go 16:08 < SaraJoyce> please clarify who you are seconding please 16:08 < AndrewDatThePub> Which state are you in @Tania? 16:08 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has joined #PPAU 16:09 < CliveMyers> If that's the trend then I self nominate as well and am happy to give some detail. 16:09 < Tania> Victoria 16:09 < KateBowman> Thank you everyone. 16:09 < JohnW> All, I live in the Federal Seat of Bowman here in Queensland. I would like to nominate for this seat. 16:09 <@alexjago> joefuri and CliveMyers, I still need to formally verify you 16:10 Yes its Me 16:10 < CliveMyers> No problem 16:10 <@alexjago> JohnW: we have a minor issue there - the party by-laws say that nominations need to be in 3 days ahead (this is why I take self-noms as a given) 16:11 < KateBowman> Apologies. I keep dropping out from the discussion. I’m on my phone. 16:11 <@MilesW> pub wifi hooray (: 16:11 <@MilesW> i suggested to the NC that we run a second round of preselections in 1-2 months... we can discuss that at the end of the meeting 16:12 < JohnW> Alex. I'm not sure I follow. But I will adhere to your ruling of coarse. 16:12 <@alexjago> https://pirateparty.org.au/wiki/By-laws#By-law_2013-02_.E2.80.94_Preselection 16:12 < stbernard`> Title: By-laws - Pirate Party Australia Wiki (at pirateparty.org.au) 16:12 < BrandonS> Did anyone have any further questions of me? 16:12 <@MilesW> do any nominations still require a second? and is there anyone here who still needs to nominate? 16:12 <@MilesW> also is anyone who has lodged a nomination but now absent? 16:12 <@alexjago> Shannon Smith, to the latter 16:13 <@alexjago> to be fair, his nomination was "I'm available if needed" 16:13 < CliveMyers> yes, I don't know the process, Alex can you advise what I need to do? 16:14 <@MilesW> yes id love to second clive myer's nomination 16:14 <@alexjago> CliveMyers: (and joefuri): I've PMd you (if you're using webchat you should have another little tab) - just respond to that 16:14 < Tania> Did anyone second my nomination? I know Victoria is a long way from most of you, but I am keen! 16:15 < JohnA> I second tania. 16:15 < CliveMyers> I am on Chrome Bowser. Tab? 16:16 < KateBowman> BrandonS I don’t have any more questions 16:16 <@alexjago> CliveMyers: within the KiwiIRC interface 16:17 < CliveMyers> Pardon my ignorance but I have never had a reason to use IRC so "within the KiwiIRC interface" doesn't actually mean anything to me. 16:18 < BrandonS> If there are no further questions, I1 unfortunately have to take my leave. If people wish to ask me further questions later, Alex Jago can provide my email address privately 16:18 <@alexjago> Thanks BrandonS - until next time. 16:18 <@MilesW> thanks for coming brandon :) 16:18 < AndrewDatThePub> Public service link: https://pirateparty.org.au/wiki/Federal_Election_2019 16:18 < stbernard`> Title: Federal Election 2019 - Pirate Party Australia Wiki (at pirateparty.org.au) 16:18 <@MilesW> we'll email everyone after the conclusion of the meeting about upcoming campaign strategy meetings 16:19 < Tania> CliveMyers there is a black bar across the screen with Pirate IRC on the left and settings and home logos on the right. 16:19 < JohnW> Thank you Miles 16:19 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:19 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has joined #PPAU 16:19 < BrandonS> Thank you, and congratulations to the candidates. i look forward to speaking and planning with you over the coming months. 16:20 <@MilesW> i have a question for sara joyce. what are the main policies and issues you would focus on in your personal campaign? 16:20 < BrandonS> Enjoy the rest of your evenings. 16:20 -!- BrandonS [BrandonS@110.151.zp.kxq] has left #PPAU [] 16:20 < Tania> #ppau is the chat window we are in and I had another one pop up next to it with alex's name in it 16:21 < Tania> CliveMyers does that help? 16:21 <@MilesW> also follow up for sara, are you interested in advocating for LGBTI issues as part of your core platform? 16:21 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:22 < CliveMyers> Got it, thanks 16:22 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has joined #PPAU 16:24 <@alexjago> OK, by my count both JohnA and joefuri are unseconded. I second both of them. 16:24 < SaraJoyce> @MilesW my primary focus in line with the party will be around transparency of government with a focus on issues ranging from lgbti issues to creating a disaster fund for things like drought for farmers and homelessness. I also have a keen interest in issues with limiting copyright laws and keeping gun control laws intact ever though I love to pew 16:24 < SaraJoyce> pew a bit. 16:24 < AndrewDatThePub> @CliveMyers, would you be OK running on joint ticket with another minor party? If so, which ones? 16:24 <@MilesW> hehe 16:25 <@MilesW> sara you mentioned you support gun control but enjoy shooting. does that mean you would support safe gun use and common sense legislation? (whatever that means to you) 16:26 <@MilesW> anecdote, there is a small battle growing here in qld regarding gun/weapon licencing laws and cosplayers. some cosplayers enjoy military styled or themed characters and are having trouble with their plastic toys being classed as "replica weaponry" and treated like actual firearms 16:26 <@MilesW> there is a related issue to do with gel ball and airsoft 16:26 < SaraJoyce> @MilesW absolutely safer gun use always. 16:26 <@MilesW> both of these issues i am interested in building policy for in the party (but in another time and place) 16:26 < CliveMyers> Not sure of the answer to that. I would have to look at the parties contesting. Obviously having preferences from other parties is a major advantage. 16:27 < JohnW> Case by Case basis Miles. If it stacks up - yes. Otherwise no. 16:27 <@MilesW> i have a question for tania briese. your bio makes you sound very mature and sensible (probably more than most of us). how do you see tech issues and tech usage fitting into your platform? 16:29 < SaraJoyce> im in support of cosplayers but even with live role play back in the “dark ages of the 90’s” we would not accept weapons of any kind... that is when we still had mass shootings. For those who haven’t grown up with gun safety they need to learn that carrying a replica, whether it be plastic or not is still a replica and the last thing we want is som 16:29 < SaraJoyce> e kid to get shot by a cop just for cosplay 16:30 < AndrewDatThePub> @CliveMyers, to be above the line in Senate ballot, there needs to be two candidates. If you are the only one in WA, then we might need to find you a partner. Maybe from another minor party to share costs. 16:30 < JohnW> Andrew, I have a great WA potential Candidate 16:31 < CliveMyers> Details? 16:31 < Tania> Thanks, I think! I was introduced to the Pirate Party by my son, who is a keen tech person, and who actually nominated for the Pirate Party in Qld in the last election. I use technology in my everyday life, and my kids have grown up with technology that wasn't imaginable a few years ago. So I appreciate that technology, both the responsible use of 16:31 < Tania> it, and the need to regulate the use of it in at least some situations, is very important. 16:32 < JohnW> Clive. A Mr. Matt Bale. He is a great on the ground Organiser & comes from the WA resources sector 16:33 < JohnW> I will introduce Clive. Email me at Moretonbaybird@protonmail.com 16:33 < CliveMyers> Will do 16:33 < JohnW> Thanks Clive. 16:33 -!- JohnA [JohnA@xc08-899-882-4.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:34 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:34 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has joined #PPAU 16:34 < JohnW> Clive. Both Matt & I are new to the Pirate Party. But we are both very experienced campaigners 16:35 -!- JohnA [JohnA@xc08-899-882-4.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #PPAU 16:36 < CliveMyers> Sounds good. I am a founding member but haven't been involved too much until now and am keen to get involved and obviously if I am selected will need help. 16:36 < Tania> In terms of things like the online Health Records, I am opposed to the way it is being introduced, and the potential for misuse, (and I have opted out of it). My son is studying Law and IT so we have frequent conversations about how technology is developing and implications for the future. 16:37 <@alexjago> OK, anyone who feels like they haven't answered "What do you think is fairly rare about yourself that makes you a worthwhile candidate?" - please do so 16:37 < Tania> I do realise that I am not the 'traditional' Pirate, but I don't see that as a disadvantage. 16:38 < SaraJoyce> Tania all good solidarity \m/ 16:38 < KateBowman> Well, I dunno about rare but I do think that the PPAU has a worthy policy platform and I would like to help get the message out there. I think many people are looking for an alternative to the two major parties and this is an opportunity for PPAU to step up. I would be honoured to represent the party. 16:39 <@alexjago> thanks KateBowman 16:39 < Tania> Fairly rare about me......I like to listen and understand before I speak. Sadly, this seems all too rare. 16:39 < CliveMyers> I think that common sense and the ability to analyse situations is actually fairly rare. My maturity gives me the ability tolook atthings based on extensive experience. 16:39 -!- AndrewDatThePub [AndrewDatT@120.17.lpu.xw] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:39 < SaraJoyce> thank you all for your support guys. I’m heading back to those sweet Blue Mountains. Been a great day for all of us Pirates and candidates. Much love. 16:39 < KateBowman> Happy to answer any questions 16:40 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:40 < CliveMyers> As am I. 16:40 < Tania> CliveMyers well said. 16:41 < KateBowman> Tania listening and understanding are good things 16:41 < JohnW> Alex. I am not a tech savvy person. I am nearly 60 y.o. but I understand the profound impact that the pending tech tsunami will have oin humanity. I am a Former President of Trades Hall in Canberra. I know how to fight fund & win elections. I have done so several times. I am at the service of the Pirate Party both as a Candidate & Logistical Suppor 16:41 < JohnW> t person. Thanks. 16:41 < JohnA> Outa here soon. 16:41 <@alexjago> JohnW: thanks 16:42 < KateBowman> I too have to leave very soon 16:42 < CliveMyers> As we seem to be jumping around I will respond to an earlier question. What would my primary platform be? I am very keen on Universal Basic income have been talking about this to any one who will listen for years now. 16:43 <@alexjago> OK, anyone who hasn't answered "What would you like the focus of your personal electoral campaign to be?" (i.e. primary platform) please do so 16:43 < Tania> KateBowman indeed! 16:43 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has joined #PPAU 16:43 <@MilesW> tania is your son eric briese (?) i think alex and i would have met him in the election campaign 16:43 < CliveMyers> I have discussed this extensively on my blog and think this is essential for the future. 16:43 -!- SaraJoyce [SaraJoyce@1.144.yrj.iyr] has quit [Client Quit] 16:44 < Tania> @milesW yes, that's right. He's still around Qld and would help out if he can. 16:45 -!- KateBowman [KateBowman@120.17.mjx.yko] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:45 <@MilesW> sara are you heading off? 16:45 <@MilesW> tania that sounds great. id love to catch up and meet him again 16:45 <@MilesW> we will need all hands on deck for the election 16:46 <@alexjago> Looks like our Sydneysiders are packing up 16:46 < JohnA> In my case ip and secular issues. Furthermore both major parties do not provide engagement with the problems we face and we need to move beyond them. Mildly unique about me : my interest in ip and secular issues and critical approach to how politics in engaged with. 16:46 <@MilesW> i have a question for clive 16:46 <@MilesW> clive are you familiar with our new JG policy and how it meshes with a ubi? 16:47 <@MilesW> i will throw in a quick word for myself and my candidacy 16:48 <@MilesW> im interested in my core electoral platform being ubi/JG, copyright and government for the people including direct democracy, transparency, anti corruption, pro privacy 16:48 < JohnW> Here Here Miles. 16:48 < CliveMyers> I have read it previously but would need to read more throughly. Sorry if am a little disjointed as I have just come back from the US and everything has been a little rushed. 16:49 < Tania> Would also like to respond to focus of personal electoral campaign. I am not coming into this with a particular personal agenda to push. I nominated for the party because I feel that the Pirate Party has a broad range of good policies, and I want to support that. Some of my interests include alternative energy, asylum seeker/refugee policies that a 16:49 < Tania> re inhumane, aged care, and promoting the Universal Basic Income. 16:50 <@MilesW> about myself: i think the variety of political and non political community work i do gives me a unique perspective on society 16:50 <@MilesW> i have experience in working with people of all ages, demographics, political/religious persuasions and interests 16:50 <@MilesW> in particular i am mostly interested in grass roots movements and community organising 16:52 < JohnW> Miles. I can help in your work of mobilising grass roots support 16:52 <@alexjago> Follow-up question re UBI: isn't there an interesting tension between the universalist aspect of it, but the necessity to limit it to Australian residents? 16:52 < CliveMyers> Just had aquick look at the UBI / reverse tax. On the face of it looks interesting but I will need to go through it more thoroughly 16:52 < Tania> @milesW. I will let Eric know. He's said he'll come down to Victoria to help us campaign, if he can fit it in with Uni and work. 16:52 <@MilesW> haha no dont steal him from us in qld :( 16:52 Economic Reform : Tax, Stopping government waste and rourts, civil liberties and the Right to Privacy. 16:53 < JohnA> Alexj : there is broader between the idea of universal human right and the fact that in reality citizens have more legally enforable rights and obligations. 16:54 < JohnA> *conflict 16:54 < JohnW> :-) 16:54 <@MilesW> john how do you see secularism fitting into your platform? 16:54 <@alexjago> ta 16:55 <@MilesW> john august8 16:56 < CliveMyers> Not sure I understand the question but in the US and with discussion with many people there, there is a poverty trap that people who work full time can't break out of. UBI would help. This was proven back in the late 60's early 70's when Nixon of all people trialled this. It had the effect of [people trying to better themselves once the pressure to 16:56 < CliveMyers> survive was taken off. 16:56 <@alexjago> CliveMyers: yes, the poverty trap argument is what really sold me on our policy 16:56 < JohnA> Miles: voluntary euthanasia but also religiously inspired policy generally from the major parties. 16:57 < CliveMyers> Obviously we can only be concerned with Australia at this time as social norms (and acceptance) are very different between here and there. 16:58 -!- JohnA [JohnA@xc08-899-882-4.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:58 <@alexjago> CliveMyers: that last was in reply to me? 16:58 < CliveMyers> Yes. Also where are we at with nomination, seconding? 17:00 <@alexjago> Everyone is self-nominated; everyone (except Shannon) is seconded 17:00 < CliveMyers> Thanks 17:00 < Tania> As a fellow Victorian, can I second Shannon, assuming he wants to run? 17:01 <@alexjago> Tania: of course 17:01 < Tania> Two names on the ballot would be nice! 17:02 <@alexjago> The NC has been extensively considering the relative virtues of running joint tickets 17:03 <@alexjago> the issue is that obviously some states we'd be #1 and some states we'd be #2, and how to decide 17:03 <@MilesW> we have spoken with and got strong interest from both reason and science party 17:04 <@MilesW> several of you have been part of those discussions 17:04 <@MilesW> id like to invite all candidates to seek out your local meetups for those two parties and start getting to know the candidates and volunteers 17:05 < Tania> I'll see what I can do. 17:05 <@MilesW> the exact mechanism for deciding preference and slot allocation is TBD though... we will need lots of input and thought from the party 17:05 <@MilesW> most importantly we'll need all of you our candidates to lead the way with forming local links and telling us what is possible in your area 17:05 <@alexjago> Admin note: I've got the chat logs, and have been and will be collating all questions and answers. Later this evening I'll send an email to all current candidates inviting them to answer any questions that they haven't already 17:05 -!- JohnA [JohnA@xc08-899-882-4.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #PPAU 17:06 <@alexjago> (In 2016 we didn't do this because we went candidate by candidate, so we just published the logs) 17:07 <@alexjago> OK, I think we're winding down. Can I ask for final responses from candidates please, and then we can finish the formal part of the meeting. 17:07 <@alexjago> Welcome to chat afterwards, of course 17:08 < Tania> Thanks for the opportunity to nominate. I am looking forward to getting to know the Pirates in Victoria. 17:10 <@MilesW> tania i understand youre in a regional area? we need someone to coordinate meetups in melbourne 17:10 <@MilesW> clive it would be also be great if you are interested in coordinating meetups in perth 17:11 -!- JohnW [TheBaybird@1.128.pti.zp] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:12 < Tania> @milesW I am in Geelong, but that's not so far from Melbourne. I haven't had any contact with others in Victoria yet. I think there was meant to be something on yesterday, but I only heard about it later. 17:13 <@MilesW> yes we were very rushed about getting something together for software freedom day :( 17:13 <@MilesW> there is a group in melbourne called designing open democracy who are filled with pirate friends and supporters 17:13 < CliveMyers> MilesW Happy to do that. 17:13 <@MilesW> if you like tania, mofosyne on the forums is one of the main organisers for DOD and would love to meetup with you 17:14 It has been an experience, All the Best 17:14 <@MilesW> thanks joe 17:14 < Tania> Great. I would love to get in touch. 17:14 <@MilesW> clive if you are interested in drafting an email to the WA mailing list we can organise to have it sent out 17:14 <@MilesW> i can also organise to get you onto the WA twitter accoutn 17:14 <@MilesW> and we'll need posts on the forums and facebook group to promote it 17:15 <@MilesW> please all join the FB group and make some posts https://www.facebook.com/groups/23292751923/ if you havent already 17:15 < stbernard`> Title: Pirate Party Australia public group | Facebook (at www.facebook.com) 17:15 -!- joefuri [joefuri@115.187.ous.rxo] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:15 < CliveMyers> MilesW Please do. 17:16 <@MilesW> https://twitter.com/Pirates_WA 17:16 < stbernard`> Title: Pirate Party WA (@Pirates_WA) | Twitter (at twitter.com) 17:16 <@alexjago> END MEETING (just so I have somewhere to stop)