Pirate Congress 2023/Minutes/Sunday

Note: proceedings were livestreamed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or4qJLmXcz0 

= Day two: Sunday =


 * 09:00 — Set up
 * 10:00 — Housekeeping
 * 10:10 — Nominations and nominee speeches
 * National Council
 * Dispute Resolution Committee
 * Policy Development Officer
 * 11:00 — Guest Speaker (Bridgid O'Brien, Yarra City Councillor)
 * 12:00 — Discussion topics
 * Strategy and party-direction discussion
 * Party-improvement proposals
 * Policy-direction discussion
 * Free discussion
 * 12:30 — Lunch
 * 13:30 — Location of next Annual National Congress
 * 13:45 — Discussion topics (continued)
 * 16:00 — Close of day two

Start of Day Two [10:00]

 * Miles Whiticker, party president, opens the meeting
 * Acknowledgements of Country

Guest Speaker — Bridgid O'Brien [10:06]
Minutes note: This is a summary of key points.


 * Yarra City Councillor, second term
 * "I guess I've always been involved in community activism"
 * Recent opposition to East-West Link freeway - a big win
 * A fan of pirate aesthetics for a long time
 * Icelandic Pirates' win in 2015 made the link to politics
 * Local government is more than roads, rates and rubbish
 * Yarra Council does lots of work around climate and greenspace
 * Policy divergence at times between Council[lors] and professional staff
 * Cat curfew an example of a notable policy issue - 4.5 years' work!
 * Pushing for more community consultation which often gets the wins
 * Working on improving transparency
 * Councillors get a lot of confidential briefings from staff
 * As an independent, it's necessary to engage the community on issues as they come up
 * ... and it's difficult to do this when so many documents are "confidential"
 * Miles notes the necessity for personal strength in favour of whistleblowing and transparency
 * Bridgid: even at the local government level there are things we can do, e.g. we put a motion in support of Assange
 * Got pulled up to the local government inspectorate for breaching confidentiality after talking about an upcoming "bin tax" proposal - fully exonerated
 * Miles: are there administrative officers in YCC who act against you on behalf of the Mayor or council majority?
 * Bridgid: yep - e.g. when trying to abolish prayers at the start of Council meetings state wide, we supported it in YCC but our delegate to the municipal association left the meeting before that vote
 * Miles talks about the saliency of secular humanism within Fusion and Pirates

"You've been a councillor for a while now - how do you campaign, what are your current campaigns?"


 * Initially a support candidate for first election
 * Lead candidate got 40%!
 * Filled the casual vacancy after a resignation
 * Community support for re-election
 * Pandemic, so extra weird
 * Won!
 * So a community-driven campaign is necessary
 * Already campaigning for next election
 * Community street meetings to engage people (and find candidates)


 * Curveball question from the chat: "what does evidence-based mean, and is it humanly possible to see it all?"
 * As a Councillor, you have to rely on your Council staff
 * But they don't always get it right - e.g. for CEPTED issues, focusing on cameras rather than sensitive lighting
 * So we find there's a huge amount of community expertise, but that's often cherry-picked by staff
 * E.g. drinking in public places local law - I read every submission, and some were clearly against the law but misclassified as being in support
 * So it's necessary to be on top of the evidence in your own right, and also taking a critical eye to what you're presented by your own staff!
 * It's even down to how the questions are posed in community surveys, and ensuring that survey data analysis is done by people with expertise in data, not just managers

Question from John: if other councilors are being dodgy - that might mean abusing committee process, trying to push things towards being confidential, or generally being dodgy in broader ways hard to define ... how to you  manage to hold them to account and communicate the concern to the broader ratepayers?


 * There's the local govt inspectorate, there's calling people out in the council chamber
 * But I caution people against being too negative

Question from Alex: do you have commentary on the incoming ward changes?


 * Absolutely - Victoria is bringing in single member wards across councils
 * Currently YCC has three three-member wards
 * Single member wards are much harder for underrepresented groups to find success in
 * Easier to be across very local issues in a smaller ward though

Miles: how do you work with people you have disagreements with?


 * Bridgid - it's about having long conversations and finding consenses.
 * Luckily YCC is quite inner city progressive and so the range of positions aren't perhaps so great
 * perhaps things would be different in NQ!
 * Miles notes the experience of a candidate from Fusion who ran in Cairns

Miles: If there was a campaign you were part of and they had a big assembly which effectively deselected you in favour of someone else, would you respect that?
 * Absolutely - it's a big part of the community independents model

10 minute break [10:48]
The CHAIR moved for a 10 minute break
 * 10 ayes, 1 nay, 1 abstain

Nominations and nominee speeches [11:00]
Dr. Liam Pomfret assumed the CHAIR.

Motion to accept all nominations [11:01]
MOTION: amend as much of the Standing Orders as needed to consider all nominations up to the time of that positions' consideration.
 * Put by: Alex Jago
 * Ayes 11
 * Nays & Abstentions 0

Miles Whiticker [11:06]

 * Incumbent President for the last few terms
 * Involved with the party since its earliest days (under 18 back then so not a founding member)
 * Increased involvement from about 2016 onwards
 * Volunteered with campaigns from 2013 on
 * Candidate in 2019, but better in a support role
 * Much time going to Fusion now, pioneering techniques for campaigning with Fusion
 * Work with web dev
 * Big love of hiking and rock climbing
 * Author or lead spokesperson for vast majority of press releases over the last few years
 * "In conclusion, vote for me to keep doing what we're doing"

Adam Woodings

 * Nominated for Councillor last year but stood down at the last moment
 * Tried to be more active over the last year, better feel for it all
 * "I'd like to become a lot more active within the Pirates"
 * 2025 will be a huge year for WA elections and a great opportunity
 * Looking to expand efforts
 * Deputy President was unfilled last year, and since so much of the workload falls to the Presidency, I'd like to help out where I can
 * General dogsbody
 * 2022 support candidate on WA Senate ticket
 * IT worker at a WA uni, previously in hospitality
 * Passion points around anti-corruption, digital rights (esp. to be forgotten), media reform

Question from idcrisis: why can't we have a gender/sexuality spectrum, like for autism?
 * I don't see why not. They already are. I do want to draw a gender/sex distinction and there are spectra for both.

Question from Miles: what specific area does your interest in the party lie eg candidate, campaign organising, comms/promoting/policy etc?
 * Well, I never could stand social media. But I would like to work on organising and really trying to collate efforts and campaigns, spreadsheet work. I'd like to work on policy more - I haven't put my hand up there but I'ld like to do more there. And I'm definitely looking to get more involved on the campaign organising side of things. I'm going to help Legalise Cannabis in the Rockhingham by-election to get some more experience there.

Miles: assuming there was an active, vibrant and strong WA branch of pirates/fusion, would you prefer to stay focussed on WA organising or switch over to focussing on national organising?
 * If WA was working well, I'd be happy to hand the reins to others and pitch in federally.

Milspec: more WA meetups?
 * Yes, once the sun's back

Alex Jago
TODO: minute this

John August

 * Perennial candidate
 * Previously Deputy President
 * Mark Gibbons an inspiration
 * "Give Mark a break" - and took over as Treasurer, at least nominally
 * Probity and day-to-day ops
 * Credit to Alex who does a lot of it too
 * Also tries to do speeches - Speakers Corner events double as Pirate meetups
 * Effective Sydney coordinator


 * In response to the gender question, there are things around us that should be a choice, not an obligation. If the clothes don't fit, that needs to be acknowledged. If they do fit, then celebrate it.
 * I've taken an interest in mental health issues. Some are genuine and need pharmaceutical intervention, some are definitional problems - society judging others.
 * Not a vampire, but can tell you about haemoglobin. When I have anxiety attacks, my awareness of my circulatory system gives me confidence in my body and helps conquer those attacks.

Councillors [11:33]

 * note: 3 positions open, one nomination

David Kennedy

 * Member from 2012
 * National Councillor 4 years running
 * Support candidate in SA last year, good experience
 * Also fairly heavily involved in early Fusion talks
 * Have been a branch rep within Fusion for Pirates too
 * Core focuses on civil and digital rights, personal freedoms, govt transparency
 * In terms of Pirates and Fusion, I'm certainly supportive of the coalition - it was the only way to move forward. Very happy to be working with Science rather than (friendly) competition as we're so similar in policy.
 * Background as a full-stack .NET developer, did 7 years with Telstra
 * Big ups for prog metal and EDM

Sean O'Farrell

 * Renominating
 * Unavailable to speak this weekend
 * Nomination was read out by the CHAIR.

Floor nominations [11:39]

 * The CHAIR called for any additional nominations from the floor.
 * With no further nominations flagged, the CHAIR declared nominations closed.

Election [11:43]

 * The RETURNING OFFICER announced that in the absence of contested elections, all nominees were elected to their positions.
 * Liam Pomfret vacated the CHAIR.
 * Miles Whiticker resumes the CHAIR.

Land Value Tax

 * Yesterday we left off having considered up to the Land Value Tax


 * Alex Jago has two proposed amendments:
 * Credit the cost of the most recent stamp duty paid against land value tax obligations, as a transitional mechanism
 * milspec accepts this amendment
 * Exempt conservation land
 * milspec requests this one goes to a motion

MOTION: amend PM-1 to exempt conservation land from land value taxation

 * Put by: Alex Jago
 * Ayes 8
 * Nays 2
 * Abstain 2
 * Carried at 11:56

Capital Gains Tax reform
Milspec speaks to this part of the motion


 * Four subsections here: inheritance, loans secured against assets, the 50% discount, and the PPOR exemption
 * Currently CGT isn't taxed on inheritances, which is a loophole for generational wealth
 * Additionally, the cost base resets on inheritance, which means if a property is sold post-inheritance
 * Most of these changes are aimed at collecting CGT more regularly
 * Have removed some of the mathematical complexity from last year's edition
 * Also treat getting a loan on a property as a CGT event
 * Every time you get a loan on a property, it gets a valuation, so that's fine
 * Removal of the 50% CGT discount
 * This was originally put in with the argument of it being an approximation for inflation
 * Instead we propose allowing adjusting for inflation directly
 * Finally there's the PPOR exemption
 * This has a bit of interference with the Land Value Tax element, since that's expected to reduce house price growth
 * The exemption sounds good on paper initially, but if you want to remove exemptions and carveouts and instead help people directly...
 * In practice rich people buy more housing than they need to take advantage of the exemption

Question around valuation without sale
 * There's statistical models available to determine this (both for land-only and total value)

Comment around the 50% discount disincentivising high frequency trading
 * Better to capture that directly with a Tobin-type tax

Question re a tax free threshold for PPOR?
 * Considered, but people start skirting it
 * People avoid marriage just to claim two PPORs
 * Better to have as general a tax base as possible and increase the CD

Question: the LNP ran a scare tax against the ALP on a "death tax" that the ALP opposed. How do we market this?
 * Milspec: I'll talk about this more in the next section, but I acknowledge the challenge here. I'm trying to be bold and fearless here in presenting a moral argument.

Further discussion on the above points.

Motion: remove section 1.4.1 "Inheritance" from PM-1 [12:18]

 * Put by: Zach__
 * Aye
 * Zach__
 * Nay 12
 * Alex, milspec, Gold, Andrew, jedb, JohnA, Swashbuckler, Adam, Miles, Morton, idcrisis, Bryn
 * Abstain 2
 * Not carried

Gifts and inheritances, GST exemptions, Superannuation concessions [12:26]

 * Subtle, but there's a discrepancy between "earned" and "unearned" income. It doesn't make much sense for me. If I work for my Dad and I earn $x a day, I pay tax. But if I sit around and he gives me $x/day in an allowance, that's untaxed.
 * Bring in a system (similar to Fringe Benefits Tax system) and tax gifts and inheritances above that threshold


 * GST exemptions are very complicated
 * Like all other parts of the policy, reducing exemptions
 * High income families pay more in GST, so broadening it and putting that money back into the CD is net progressive


 * Superannuation concessions have received a fair bit of attention from think tanks
 * Putting money into super tax free, earnings within super are concessional, withdrawals are tax free
 * Increasingly large tax break for the wealthy - 60% goes to the top 20%
 * Labor have already started latching on to this

Question: what sort of threshold do we set for gifts & inheritances?
 * Yes, not specified currently. Thinking something like $5k/year

Comment from JedB: NZ doesn't have the essential-items exemption?

Question from Zach: does it matter if the rich are taking advantage as long as the exemptions are still helping poor people?

Comment from Simon: this isn't going towork politically. It was a big deal adding menstrual products to the exemptions list, for example, and women aren't getting more CD.

Question from Adam: exemption for medical items and services?
 * Milspec: better to expand Medicare/NDIS to support it.

Question from Andrew: wouldn't it be better to just cap super exemptions? Then lower income people can use this to save, but the ultra-wealthy can't take advantage.
 * Milspec: yeah, that's basically Labor's proposal

Comment from Swashbuckler: anything that is necessary for some group but not for everyone should probably have some exemption. otherwise some people are getting burdened more than the general population
 * Yes, but there's arbitrarily many groups here. Prefer a subsidy approach

MOTION: Exemption to GST to remain for certain Medical and Personal Care items, by schedule, similar to the PBS [12:40]

 * A fair amount of discussion regarding this
 * Wording went through several changes


 * Put by: Simon, Adam, Miles
 * Ayes
 * Simon, Adam, idcrisis, Satch, Miles, mandrke, Morton, Alex, Swashbuckler
 * Nays
 * Gold, Jed, milspec, Andrew
 * Abstain
 * Zach, John
 * Carried 12:46


 * Some work needed to actually modify the text

Lunch [12:47]
Motion: break for lunch until 1:30 AEST


 * Put by: Miles Whiticker
 * Ayes 11
 * Nay 2
 * Abstain

PM-1 continued

 * The CHAIR called for further motions on 1.5, 1.6 and 1.7

1.8 Visa Rent [13:43]

 * "I want to say I'm pro-migration; I'm a migrant myself and I want to see more migration."
 * Australia has a staggering 1 million people on the wait list
 * Very intrusive scrutiny process on the relationship side
 * Also a very arbitrary process on the jobs side - shortages decided by industry lobbying
 * Think tanks suggest a minimum threshold for salary
 * What we really want is not just high income jobs but when people would earn much more here than in their home countries
 * The proposal: a "Visa Rent" - if it makes economic sense for you to be here, let's charge accordingly
 * Stay indefinitely as long as you can pay, avoid needless disruption
 * Removes necessity to be sponsored by an employer
 * All current visas to be grandfathered in
 * Comment-question: if your income is tripled but your CoL is too, are you really winning?
 * Up to the individual to choose
 * Question: how do you afford a 25% income tax and visa rent as a fruit picker?
 * The exploitation of current fruit picking wages is enabled by visa limitations
 * Price set as a constant amount, not as a percent of income or whatever
 * Not proposing a change to the number of migrants, more setting the visa rent level to effect that quantity
 * Isn't this a mechanism for rich people in places with bad rule of law to come here and not work?
 * Fine by me
 * Also intention to charge visa rent in arrears, including humanitarian-type migration in system
 * Possible to have a carve out for a certain number
 * There's a moral hazard whereby people becoming citizens represents a substantial loss of government revenue
 * "This selects for increases in income, but not for increases in welfare. A low-income migrant has higher benefits by moving here, but a higher income migrant is much more able to."
 * Yes, but a higher income migrant having less to gain is less likely to
 * Gold: "How do you balance the ethical concern that a rich person may hoard a visa, not utilising it effectively compared to someone who depserately needs the visa instead to improve their quality of life?"
 * We could say this about so many other things, too. Land, water... it's just part of the market economy
 * Simon: "I think that this goes beyond refugees. To take not refugees as fundamentally different circumstances is icing on the cake of how this hasn't been thought through enough. But even non-refugee workers supporting essential roles which keep things ticking in jobs Aussies we don't want to do, this would be a major shock. just because higher paid jobs are available doesn't mean we should abandon farming.  How does migrant workers in the middle of the country impact a migrant working in IT in the city."
 * If we get worse at farming, it'll be because we get much better at something else
 * Adam: "Do you see any need to change the requirements for citizenship if we adopted the visa changes?"
 * JedB: "farming is a somewhat noteworthy sector in that maintaining enough farming to feed your own country, if you have enough arable land to do it, is a national security issue"
 * JedB: "farming is a somewhat noteworthy sector in that maintaining enough farming to feed your own country, if you have enough arable land to do it, is a national security issue"

Motion: remove Visa Rent from PM-1

 * Put by: Andrew Downing
 * Ayes
 * Andrew, Alex, Simon, Jed, Swashbuckler
 * Nays
 * Zach, idcrisis, JohnA, Adam, milspec
 * Abstain
 * Miles, Satch, Gold, Morton


 * very close!
 * The CHAIR restated the question and asked if anyone wished to change their vote.

Motion: exempt student, tourist and humanitarian visas from visa rent [14:26]

 * Put by: Alex Jago
 * Ayes 14
 * Abstain 2 (milspec, Jay)
 * Nays 0
 * Carried

The Education Dividend [14:30]

 * Includes children in the dividend
 * Goes to the guardian, with preference going to childcare, education, parental leave
 * Fairly wide scope of what counts


 * Issue with moving to catchment areas of "good" public schools
 * Discontinues all direct public funding to private and religious schools in line with existing policy
 * Deducts public school funding approximate cost from Ed Dividend if people send their kids to public school
 * Better than a school voucher system: less price sensitivity


 * JedB: this is micromanagement - on the one hand we take away FTB, but on the other hand we do this?
 * Yes, acknowledged
 * JedB: this still doesn't really get around geographic restrictions
 * Yes, but it's giving families money for private school and therefore competition


 * Milspec: I want to note that with a voucher system the parents don't actually see the money, whereas with this system they will. And public school funding is a little less than half of that.


 * A fair level of opposition to the private school funding element


 * Further discussion revealed that removing the public-private schooling distinction (keeping

Motion to amend

 * Remove the education dividend from PM1 entirely, and add a section for the citizen dividend that applies to children equivalent to 50% of the adult rate
 * Put by: Miles Whiticker
 * Accepted by Milspec

Sovereign Wealth Fund

 * Minor re-draft of existing policy

Motion: adopt SWF policy [15:07]

 * Put by: Milspec
 * Passed without objection

Removing religious tax concessions [15:11]

 * Very similar to current policy
 * Zach questions whether regular church services constitute charity or community service


 * Extensive debate


 * Alex Jago proposes a motion to replace the dotpoints in the proposed policy with those from the existing policy.
 * Milspec accepts

Motion to specify non-discrimination re charitable activities

 * MOTION: Include a statement that the qualifying charitable activities must be non-discriminatory, both in who they accept into the activity, and how they deliver it to not discriminate against any margionalised group.
 * Put by: Simon Gnieslaw
 * Ayes
 * Nays
 * Abstain
 * Carried at 15:30

Negative Externalities

 * Question around the carbon tax number from Alex
 * it's Gillard Era


 * Amendment from John:
 * MOTION: Amend and include the following paragraph: "As pirates, we endorse personal choice. It is not the intention of this section that we limit people's freedom to make choices, however we would like to ensure people may for the consquences of their choices others".
 * Accepted by milspec

Straw polls on amending this policy:
 * Removed pesticide and fertiliser
 * Retained Congestion, Pay as you throw, sugar, tobacco and alcohol.


 * JedB proposes alternative wording re Sugar which was accepted.

Sugar Tax: To combat the negative externalities associated with high sugar consumption, we propose a tax on added sugar in beverages, to be levied on the manufacturer or importer. By increasing the price of such drinks, that tax would encourage ingredient lists to be reformulated to healthier levels and generate revenue to fund public health initiatives.

Motion: set the tax-free threshold for non-citizens at the level of the Citizens Dividend

 * Put by: Simon Gnieslaw
 * Ayes 11


 * Nays 2


 * Abstain 2

Motion to adopt PM-1 as amended [15:51]

 * Ayes 12
 * Jay, Miles, Andrew, Alex, idcrisis, jedb, mandrke, JohnA, Adam, David, Gold, milspec
 * Nays 2
 * Zach, Swashbuckler
 * Abstain 0

Motion: hold National Congress 2024 online [15:54]

 * Put by: Miles Whiticker
 * Ayes 12
 * Abstain 1

Motion to extend the day til 4:30pm [15:56]

 * Carried

Guest Speaker: Sven Clements [16:00]

 * Sven introduces himself
 * Cofounder of Luxembourgish Pirates
 * Have contested most elections since founding (2013 onwards)
 * This year, went from 2 to 19 seats in local councils
 * On track to 2x to 3x seats in national assembly this October


 * Luxembourg is a small country, but it's bigger than all the other "small" countries combined geographically.
 * Population of about 620k residents
 * plus about 200k daily commuters from neighbouring countries
 * About half of residents aren't citizens
 * Strong proponents of European integration
 * Eurovision song contest per-capita success!


 * Pirates continuing success in Europe


 * Targeting mostly older people, as it turns out
 * "skewing poorer and less educated than I expected"
 * not just for hip young rich white IT workers, though that's the start naturally
 * being given a chance by people who've given other parties a chance in the past
 * Miles: Euroskeptics tend to be older and poorer, so since you're pro-EU that's interesting
 * Sven: Over 70% of Luxembourgers are pro EU - it's like asking Sydney or Canberra to leave Australia


 * Question: "it looks like you sit with the government coalition, but you're not in government. What's the dynamic there?"
 * Most LUX laws pass by consensus. We align with the progressive government more often than the conservative opposition, but we're certainly an opposition party, calling out scandals and proposing changes - they don't like us that much!
 * Luxembourg also has a stable party system - the government has 31/60 without us - but sometimes our support gets amendments done.


 * Studied information systems at uni
 * Ended up in Pirate politics - in 2009 I was in another parties' youth wing, and saw the proposed creation of a Pirate party. None of the others were for me, so I joined, and ended up becoming the chairman at 20 years old.
 * Miles relates the story of how Stephen Conroy's firewall proposal radicalised so many AU Pirates
 * Sven: yes. I recommend the Spotify series on Netflix which depicts the time where so many people who didn't understand the internet wanted to regulate it with a sledgehammer, and that spurred the movement.


 * Miles: We now have a need to reinvent ourselves, because the major parties don't have the same internet issues they did a decade ago


 * Salient issues as an MP:
 * Obviously lots of personal freedoms issues
 * Not the anti lockdown people during COVID. We sought to have restrictions to preserve life, but lift them ASAP.
 * Radical centrism - trying to find solutions that work over ideology in many cases
 * Freedom of speech - there is a necessity to regulate platforms which are too large and can endanger democracy, while at the same time protecting minorities
 * Animal welfare - it's a big thing for us, we might have more vegans than the Greens. Not about imposing a way of life on others, but making sure anyone can live animal free (e.g. with school canteens)
 * Then there's the big ones: social justice, taxation, housing
 * Housing is particularly tricky - all the existing parties have failed on this
 * Part of our platform calls for 10-euro-per-square-metre public housing. There's government owned that the government could develop on. The pension fund could invest in this rather than losing money on the market. This could cover our gap and a bit more. Much like Singapore, but at lower density. They're a benevolent dictatorship, but they've solved housing and we can learn from that.


 * Question: what was your pathway from being unknown, to getting elected?
 * "I got sued for being a hacker". If you Google my name you'll see the controversy.
 * When I went to the doctors' I saw a post-it with a username and password, went home, was able to access a large chunk of PII
 * Disclosure largely ignored, then the police raided my home
 * Made front page news
 * Practically, we ran a campaign of being highly visible on the street.
 * Lots of posters, door to door, always a smile
 * Did well enough for public funding and then actually got seats the next time around
 * The challenge is always to get voters to know about you. You can't count on free press or other parties talking nicely about you. Meet people, defuse their prejudices, and show that you want to show their problems.
 * I know this is difficult. It means manpower and money. But it's how we managed to break through.

Re local council campaigning


 * Local government elections are hyper local - different push button issues everywhere.
 * A hotel that should or shouldn't be built, showing that you listen and care
 * LUX councils are proportionally elected, BTW, very helpful
 * Managing to get your own small part of a region behind one issue can get a breakthrough
 * Lots of constituency work.
 * I stood on the street distributing muffins and listening to people talk about their most important issue (many different issues)
 * We also invested a lot in people who seemed to be electable and could communicate their electability
 * Also put a lot into the name as a gadget, not a stumbling stone. Pirates are normal people.
 * Before being elected, we also made sure to show up to all the functions and be in the pictures. Photobombing works!


 * Question: do you also face issues of overrepresentation of predominantly male IT guys being in the Pirate Party? Have you done anything, and to any success, in broadening the demographics?
 * Yes, By actively recruiting underrepresented voices and enabling them to be heard (without quotas) through encouragement and training

Miles thanks Sven for his time talking to us.

Presentation: swarmwise organising [16:34]

 * Based on Miles' experience
 * With Fusion we have a greater mass of people, but it comes with a different culture
 * Trialled a more "swarmwise" approach with the Fusion member drive
 * More anarchist than conventional PPAU approach
 * Very similar to XR techniques - surprised to see the lack of reference in XR docs
 * Fusion is often more hierarchical than this
 * Settled on a more hybridised system - some autonomy, some processes with process owners

Making a swarm:
 * Goals must be inclusive, credible, tangible and epic
 * similar to S.M.A.R.T.
 * New members recruit better than old ones
 * Scaling out, not up
 * Old members' social graph already have heard the pitch
 * Radical trust: three pirate rule
 * If three people agree something will further the movement - go do it!
 * do-ocracy is scary but it has great payoffs
 * Fusion got on board with this
 * Scaffolding matters, but it should be descriptive more than prescriptive
 * Activation ladder: haven't heard of us, have heard of us, passive supporters (voters), volunteering / joining, active membership...
 * Organisational Flow based on unified goals, achieving them, then reinventing itself around new goals
 * "seasonal" analogy
 * In politics we have a similar cycle based on the electoral cycle, and we can leapfrog process & momentum between levels of government
 * Organising groups based around Dunbar's number(s)
 * Scaffolding should minimise admin and maximise action
 * if all you do is admin, you lose track

Building a swarm
 * Leadership means delegating authority and accountability
 * There's an element of radical trust - usually it's not a zero sum outcome
 * Offline bonds are stronger than online bonds

Maintaining a swarm


 * "Keep your eyes on the target and paint it red daily"
 * Heartbeat messaging communicating progress
 * Organisation is nothing more than relationships between people

Bridgid chimes in:
 * There's a lot to be done at a local government level. It's very grassroots.
 * I do want to touch on one point Sven made, about acknowledging the masculinist-ness of the organisation. I have ideas around addressing those issues, which is something for future work


 * Not minuted: what Bridgid's up to as a Councillor and her upcoming campaign events

End of Congress [16:55]

 * Motion: close National Congress 2023
 * Put by: Miles Whiticker
 * Carried unanimously at 16:57

The CHAIR thanks all of the participants for their work over the weekend.

"We're trying to make the world a better place. It won't happen overnight, but we're getting there."