Domestic Violence Working Group/Development

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Assertions

Please place all of your policy assertions here. An assertion is a simple statement that you believe to be fact. Subpoints may reinforce or refute the accuracy of the assertion.

Each working group meeting will review each assertion based on the evidence provided, and vote to either agree or disagree with the assertion. This is an iterative process, meaning it will repeat as many times as necessary for creating the policy.

Assertions that are agreed to will become the basis of the policy direction as our understanding of the problem space evolves. Ensure your assertions fit within the boundaries of the Terms of Reference.

Note: do not waste time trying to refute a subpoint that someone has provided. Each will be considered on their merit during the next working group meeting.

Policy Criteria

  • In line with core existing PPAU policy, any policy on DV should not discriminate on arbitrary bases such as gender, age, sexual orientation, race etc. -- AndrewD (talk) 23:53, 15 June 2015 (AEST)
    • PPAU Bill of Rights Policy - "Guarantees freedom from discrimination by government, based on any arbitrary or generalised condition, including gender, age, sexual orientation, race, religion (or lack thereof), social sub-cultural and political affiliation."

Prevalence of domestic violence

  • Prevalence of domestic child abuse is highest amongst single parent families. Combined with the numbers of household types from ABS data, the rates of "substantiated child protection notifications" per household type are about 3 times higher for single-father households and 7 times higher for single-mother households.
    • Child protection Australia report by Australian Institute of Health and Welfare Canberra, 2010-2011 --AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2015 (AEST)
      • Refer to the table on Page 56 "Table A1.9: Substantiations of notifications received during 2010–11, by type of family in which the child was residing, states and territories"
    • 3236.0 - Household and Family Projections, Australia, 2011 to 2036 -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2015 (AEST)
    • Disagree with interpretation of statistics. According to ABS 83% of single parent families women acted as the responsible parent. According to the statistics provided in the original assertion, there were 1,602 cases of notifications of child abuse where the woman was the primary care-giver and 313 cases where men played the same role. The total number of reports from single parent families was 1,915. Proportionally, women were reported in 83.65% of all cases, a mere 0.65% above the rate of men, well within statistical variation. Whilst single parent families are more likely to report incidence of violence against children, there are no differences between a single mother and single father in the rates of reported abuse. --Frew (talk) 08:09, 2 June 2015 (AEST)
      • Disagree with your disagreement: I do like the improved source for counts of the various households, but the numbers you picked up from the DOCS PDF (1,602 and 313 cases) were only from the Victoria column. The country totals were 5,660 (single Mother) and 752 (single Father). With 173,600 single father households, that's 0.43% were reported in 2011. With 818,800 single mother households, that's 0.69% reported, or about 1.7 times higher. If we consider ("Two parent—intact" + "Two parent—step or blended") as collectively matching the ABS category of "Couple families with children", then by comparison, they had (5,449 + 2507) = 7956 substantiated reports over 2,712,300 households or 0.29% were reporting in 2011. Using that as a base, single fathers were 0.43/0.29 = 1.48 times higher and single mothers 0.69/0.29 = 2.38 times higher. -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2015 (AEST)
      • It seems remarkable difficult to find statistics for Australia, on the specific family relationships of perpetrators vs. child victims, like who actually abused or murdered the child? Mum? Dad? brother? Sister? DCS just omit this information from their reports. However, if it's anything, like the USA [1], the numbers are scary. Take a look at the tables on pages 49 and 61. Children in the USA were nearly 3 times as likely to be killed by their mother(or mother and other) as their father(or father and other) and over twice as likely to have been abused by those same categories.
        • A further note from the source DOCS document: "Female single parent families may be over-represented because they are more likely to have low incomes, be financially stressed (Saunders & Adelman 2006) and suffer from social isolation (Loman 2006; Saunders & Adelman 2006). These factors have all been associated with child abuse and neglect (Black et al. 2001; Coohey 1996). However, the data reported here describes the composition of the family within which the child was residing at the time of notification and does not necessarily reflect that the notification related to the residing parent." -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2015 (AEST)
        • It would be very interesting to know why the Victoria numbers were so much better and why the Queensland numbers in particular were so much worse. Are they running different policies or services?
  • Rates of "Domestic Assault" as recorded by the NSW police, show strong concentrations in poorer urban regions and even stronger in remote rural regions.
    • NSW Crime Tool. -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2015 (AEST)
      • Interactive charting on web page. Select "Domestic Violence" category on left. Pan around Sydney area. Zoom out to view wider state regions.
      • Worst rates around Sydney Metro area are 300-600 per 100,000 people, while areas like the Hills District are down around 147 per 100,000 people.
      • Inner country regions are stable but much higher. e.g. Bourke region at 4096 per 100,000 people. Walgett region at 2456 per 100,000 people.

Changes to Prevalence of Domestic Violence

  • Incidents of "Domestic Assault" as recorded by the NSW police peaked in 2002 and have been relatively flat ever since.
    • NSW Crime Tool. -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2015 (AEST)
      • Interactive charting on web page. Select "Domestic Violence" category on left, "Number of years" as 20 on top/left and Choose the "Graphs" tab, top right.
      • Chart shows a stable annual variation of between 26 and 37 per 100,000 continuously since 2002, with peaks in December every year.
      • This suggests that no NSW government policy has had any effect in either reducing or increasing serious domestic violence in NSW.
        • Ancillary: Possible increases to prevalence of DV may not be reflected by these statistics due to under-reporting. "Many crimes which occur are not reported to Police and will therefore not be recorded" From the NSW Dept. Justice, BOCSR, "Cautionary notes about crime data" [2] . This is supported by the ABS's Personal Safety Survey, 2012 where (for victims of current partners) 80% of women and 95% of men had "never contacted the police" from "Actions Taken in Response to Partner Violence" [3] EmRob (talk) 01:04, 1 June 2015 (AEST)
        • My notes on statistics coding (not in the programming sense) and methodology will have some bearing on fluctuations in numbers. As far as most statisticians are concerned, ten years isn't long enough to say the numbers mean X. Maybe in fifty or a hundred years, so current use of these numbers is often left to the PR departments, which is generally what will concern a minister ... -- BenM (talk) 13:07, 1 June 2015 (AEST)
      • Based on: NSW DV Police Reporting Trends,
        • I think it's valid to assume there has been no substantive improvement in the past 12 years. The state polices may have shifted the problems around, but there is no recent overall trend or inflection point to suggest any marked intentional improvement. I suppose that in theory, reporting rates could have increased in direct relation to an equivalent reduction in actual rates, but it seems incredibly unlikely. -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2015 (AEST)

Victim attributes (including injuries)

  • The Male/Female DV victim ratio of around 1 in 3 (shown in ABS data and Mozart's South Australian reference above), persists up to the severity level of homicide.
    • Australian Bureau of Statistics; 4906.0 - Personal Safety, Australia, 2012 - EXPERIENCE OF PARTNER VIOLENCE
      • Statistics from the PSS: 16.9% of women and 5.3% of men, since the age of 15, have experienced at least one act of partner violence. That is, for every one man, at least three women have experienced partner violence, or a ratio of 1:3 (men:women) or that 1 in 4 victims are men. Additionally, this means that roughly 1 in 20 men and 1 in 6 women experienced partner violence at least once since turning 15. This statistic does not confer number of incidents nor sex of perpetrator. Persons who recorded both a current and a previous partner are not counted doubly in the totals used in these points. "Prevalence of Partner Violence", Table C, ABS, [4] EmRob (talk) 23:22, 1 June 2015 (AEST)
        • The 1/4 men, 3/4 women ratios you cite, are based on the averaged current+previous partner data. If you look at previous partner violence alone, there would be 1/5 men, 4/5 women ratios, but based on current partners, it's 1/3 men (@ 1.4%), 2/3 women (@ 2.7%). I'm assuming that current activity is both more relevant (for services considerations) and more likely to be accurately recorded, since this is a survey based report. -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 05 June 2015 (AEST)
        • I also note that the PSS survey was conducted exclusively by female interviewers, after having been extended from a previous 2005 study exclusively about violence against women, and that the majority of "high relative standard error" warnings in the statistics are on data collected from men, and that they had "unexpectedly high" non-response sampling problems. They also ignored remote aboriginal communities. Explanatory Notes -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 05 June 2015 (AEST)
      • The PSS defines partner violence as "Refers to any incident of sexual assault, sexual threat, physical assault or physical threat by a current and/or previous partner. Partner violence does not include violence by a "boyfriend/girlfriend or date""
      • The numbers for "Whether experienced partner violence during the last 12 months" are also similar, with 0.6% of men and 1.5% of women. Again, a 3 to 1 ratio, with 3/4 of the victims being female.
        • New Assertion: The PSS indicates that, Nationally, for every male who has experienced partner violence three women have also experienced it. This raises issues as women do not outnumber men 3:1 in the general population. It also means that services are aimed at female victims. EmRob (talk) 00:04, 2 June 2015 (AEST) I have "stricken" this assertion as I am writing a new assertion elsewhere which covers this. EmRob (talk) 22:59, 14 June 2015 (AEST)
          • Challenging the "New Assertion": I wasn't talking about "services" when I raised this assertion, but since you've raised it, we should probably be looking to see if government services are allocated in anything like the ratio of victims as measured. Without quibbling about the ratios too much, aiming to exclude 25% to 33% of the victims seems like a mistake. -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 05 June 2015 (AEST)
    • Australian Government, Australian Institute of Criminology: Homicide in Australia, 2008–10 report -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2015 (AEST)
      • Refer to: "Table 10 Type of homicide by sex of victims, 2008–10". Line for "Intimate Partner" - 23% male vs. 73% female.
  • Between 1989–1991, Easteal found that women were responsible for 19.3% of intimate partner killings: Patricia Easteal, Killing the Beloved (Australian Institute of Criminology, 1993) 50. --Mozart (talk) 13:59, 1 June 2015 (AEST)
  • In the same source, at 69–70, victim precipitation ('A history of severe physical violence or a physical altercation immediately preceding the death') was much higher where the offender was female — 77.3% of domestic homicides committed by women involved precipitation by the victim, whereas victim precipitation with male offenders was 8.5%. --Mozart (talk) 13:59, 1 June 2015 (AEST)
    • This is similarly represented in NSW statistics. From 01.07.2000 to 30.06.2010, of Intimate Partner Homicides, when a female partner killed a male partner, 90% of the time she was the victim of domestic violence. No female perpetrator was solely the abuser. "Intimate Partner Homicide - Male Victims" [in "Incidence" in "Intimate Partner Homicides (Domestic Violence Context)" Chapter 2: Complete Dataset Findings Domestic Violence Homicide 2000–2010, from NSW Domestic Violence Death Review Team Annual Report 2012-2013 Pg 4 (Doc Pg 20) [5]] EmRob (talk) 22:38, 7 July 2015 (AEST)
  • New Assertion: Intimate partner homicide is the most prevalent type of homicide occurring to women Nationally (in 2008-10) EmRob (talk) 00:04, 2 June 2015 (AEST) typo corrected EmRob (talk) 22:38, 7 July 2015 (AEST)
    • Statistics of "Table 10:Type of homicide by sex of victims, 2008–10" from "Homicide in Australia, 2008–10" by the Australian Institute of Criminology [6]. EmRob (talk) 00:04, 2 June 2015 (AEST)
      • Of those murdered by intimate partners 27% were male and 73% were female. This can be represented as 3/4 of victims of murder by intimate partners were women or that women outnumber men as victims of homicide by an intimate partner three to one. This is while women do not outnumber men in general population (roughly 1 to 1).
      • Of those murdered in the broader DV context (within the domestic family unit ), the report shows 39% of DV murder victims were men, vs. 61% women. At that rate, there is one domestic violence murder of a man every 9.7 days and a women every 6.3 days. -- AndrewD (talk) 19:45, 08 July 2015 (AEST)
      • When one discerns the percentage of partner homicides per all homicides for each sex (females: 89/175, males 33/366) things are alarming for women. 51% of murders of women are by an intimate partner. This is possibly why it is seen as a women's issue, for if you were to be murdered, it's a 50/50 chance it will be your partner killing you. Conversely, only 9% of male homicides were committed by intimate partners. Women are thus five times more likely to be killed by a partner than men (10% times 5 is 50%). EmRob (talk) 22:28, 8 July 2015 (AEST)
        • Minor objection: The "New Assertion" is OK, but the statement just prior, that "Women are thus five times more likely to be killed by a partner than men (10% times 5 is 50%).", is statistically invalid - it combines numbers from differing baselines. Since men are around twice as likely to be murdered in the first place, comparing the 33/366 to the 89/175 is invalid. Assuming approximately equal numbers of men and women, if 89 women and 33 men get murdered by intimate partners, then the ratio is simply 89/33 or approximately 2.7 times, not 5 times. -- AndrewD (talk) 11:47, 15 June 2015 (AEST)
        • Not really. You have two people in the morgue, one male, one female. There is a 50% chance the female was killed by their partner. There is a 10% chance the male was killed by their partner. Ergo it is five times more likely that this female was killed by a partner than the man. We are not talking about a morgue full of all the people, but a morgue of representative bodies. The percentage comes after the murder, and thus the number of murders of one sex does not apply. (Apologies if this is the "refuting the subpoint" thing that we aren't supposed to do as stated in the Assertions) EmRob (talk) 22:38, 7 July 2015 (AEST)
        • Yes Really. You could make a statement like "An randomly selected women from the set of women known to have been murdered is 5 times more likely to have been murdered by her intimate partner, than a man similarly selected from the set of men known to have been murdered.", but that's quite a lot different than saying "Women are five times more likely to be killed by a partner than men". They are not. In your 'person in the morgue' scenario, you are conveniently ignoring the fact that there are 366 men there and only 175 women. Men out of the general population that the 5* statement refers to, are around twice as likely to be murdered in the first place. -- AndrewD (talk) 11:25, 07 July 2015 (AEST)
        • The point of the statistic is to correct for differences in total populations to characterise the perpetrator per sex of victim not per number of victim. Shall I rephrase to "A female victim of homicide is five times more likely to have been murdered by an intimate partner than a male victim of homicide"? -EmRob (talk) 01:32, 8 July 2015 (AEST)
          • That rephrasing would not seem to address your stated goal. There are no significant differences in the total populations. The number of men and women in Australia (ignoring the recent quirk of men having lower life expectancies) are close enough to equal for these purposes. On the basis of total population, the correct number is 2.7 times.-- AndrewD (talk) 11:25, 07 July 2015 (AEST)


  • The Male/Female DV victim ratio of around 1 in 3 also applies to Domestic Emotional Abuse (2.8% of 8,226,300 males vs. 4.7% of 8,326,700 females)
  • Police Reporting rates are very low, but nearly 4 times higher for women.
    • 4906.0 - Personal Safety, Australia, 2012
      • Refer to Tables 25,26. You will need something to read .XLS spreadsheets.
      • Men are significantly less likely than women to report Domestic Violence against themselves. 5.3% of 119,600 Men vs. 19.8% of 237,100 Women.

Victims in South Australia

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Victims

  • Assertion: Of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander victims of physical assault, women are more likely to be victims of DV.
    • Evidence: 15% of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women experienced at least one physical assault of the last year, 32% of the most recent incidents were by a current or previous partner. 17% of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander men experienced at least one physical assault of the last year, 2%* of of the most recent incidents were by a current or previous partner. (* Estimate has a relative standard error of between 25% and 50% and should be used with caution)
    • Source: 4714.0 - National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Survey, 2008 "Feature Article: Experiences of Physical Violence, 2008" ABS, [7] and [8] EmRob (talk) 22:51, 1 June 2015 (AEST)
  • Assertion: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women more likely to report to police their most recent physical assault than men.
    • Evidence: 65% of women reported their most recent physical assault by a current or ex partners. 30% of men reported their most recent assault (all types of offender) to police (compared to 60% of women for all types of offender).
    • Source: 4714.0 - National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Survey, 2008 "Feature Article: Experiences of Physical Violence, 2008" ABS, [9] & [10]EmRob (talk) 00:19, 1 June 2015 (AEST) EmRob (talk) 00:28, 2 June 2015 (AEST)

Working Title Haven't got a name yet

  • Assertion: Domestic Violence is a significant issue for women and children. EmRob (talk) 22:59, 14 June 2015 (AEST)
    • NSW Info - Please note that NSW has trouble pulling Domestic away from Family violence. EmRob (talk) 00:16, 15 June 2015 (AEST)
      • "Who Experiences Domestic Violence?", NSW Govt, Domestic Violence: It Can Happen to Anyone [11] accessed 14/06/15
      • "In the 12 months to March 2014...A large proportion – 69%, were women." from "It Stops Here Safer Pathway" Factsheet by the NSW State Government [12] accessed 14/06/15
      • "Domestic and family violence was the most commonly reported issue to Community Services for children at risk of significant harm in 2010, with over 20,000 reports received" from "Domestic and Family Violence Hurts Children", 2011, by the Department of Family and Community Services, Government of NSW, [13] accessed 14/6/15
      • "Generally speaking, victims of Domestic & Family Violence are usually female while perpetrators are male. This does not however preclude domestic violence occurring within same sex or other domestic relationships. [...] experienced by many people, mainly women and children, because of actions by someone close to them" from "Domestic and Family Violence" by NSW Police Force, Government of NSW, [14] accessed 14/06/15.
      • "...although men can also experience domestic violence, it is primarily perpetrated by men against women" from "It Stops Here Safer Pathway Overview" by the NSW Department of Justice, the NSW Government [15] page 9 and "Domestic violence is the single greatest cause of death, ill health and disability for women aged under 45"from "It Stops Here Safer Pathway Overview" by the NSW Department of Justice, the NSW Government [16] page 9 quoting NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research, NSW Recorded Crime Statistics, "Female victims of domestic violence homicide October 2012 to September 2013", (BOCSAR ref: Dg12/10965, nm1311039) which appears to be unpublished. EmRob (talk) 02:14, 15 June 2015 (AEST)
      • "The presence of domestic violence puts children at high risk of physical abuse with rates of co-occurrence ranging from 45 per cent to 70 per cent." from "Safer Pathway: Domestic violence and child protection guidelines" by the NSW Department of Justice, the NSW Government page 7, [17] referencing Holt, S., Buckley, H., & Whelan, S. (2008). ‘The impact of exposure to domestic violence on children and young people: A review of the literature’. Child Abuse and Neglect, 32, 797-810. EmRob (talk) 02:14, 15 June 2015 (AEST)
      • "Physical abuse of children is 15 times more likely in families where domestic violence is occurring" and that the "NSW Child Death Review Team found that for the period July 2001 to June 2002" of the 20 families from which 21 children died, "The parental risk factor “victim of domestic violence” was present in 14 families and the parental risk factor of “perpetrator of domestic violence” was present in 12 families." From Domestic Violence: Identifying and Responding Policy by Children's Hospital Westmead, 2011 [18] EmRob (talk) 23:19, 7 July 2015 (AEST)
    • Victorian Information - Please note that again, DV and Family violence appear to be used interchangeably.
      • "Intimate partner violence alone contributes 9% to the disease burden in Victorian women aged 15-44 years, making it the largest known contributor to the preventable disease burden in this group. (VicHealth 2004)" from "Family Violence - The Facts" by the Department of Human Services, Victorian State Goverment [19] Otherwise their stats are from the PSS 2006 EmRob (talk) 02:41, 15 June 2015 (AEST)
    • National info
      • In the ten years of 2002/2003 to 2011/2012 488 women were killed by an intimate partner. that's 0.93 or roughly one woman per week. from Table 3, "Overview of victim characteristics by homicide type, 2002–03 to 2011–12", Domestic/family homicide in Australia, Research in practice no. 38, by Tracy Cussen & Willow Bryant, Canberra: Australian Institute of Criminology, May 2015, [20] Argh, still unfinished EmRob (talk) 02:41, 15 June 2015 (AEST)

Effect on children

Problems with current Government Response to Domestic Violence

Sexually Discriminatory Government Processes and Services

  • Some government services explicitly assume DV is entirely Male on Female.
  • Hospital Intervention Policies assume only females can be victims of DV.
    • NSW Emergency Care Procedures -- AndrewD (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2015 (AEST)
      • Has a section "DOMESTIC VIOLENCE - IDENTIFYING AND RESPONDING (PD2006_084)", that is entirely about detecting DV against women and women only.
        • See Page 25: "The Policy and Procedures for Identifying and Responding to Domestic Violence (2003) http://internal.health.nsw.gov.au/pubs/p/pdf/procedures_dom_violence.pdf provides a framework for informing domestic violence responses for staff in hospitals and community health services. This document’s child protection focus has been improved by amendments as detailed below." Thus the following list is additional child protection amendments. You cannot say that the policy is only about women when the link does not appear to work for the internal document. EmRob (talk) 00:23, 2 June 2015 (AEST)
        • Page 26: Without being able to read the referred to document, it appears that routine screening is applied to these certain women. As the PSS indicates, the majority of victims (75%) are female and thus they are screening to save as many victims as possible. This does not mean that they apply NO procedures for identifying male victims of DV. EmRob (talk) 00:23, 2 June 2015 (AEST)
        • Procedures are in place to check if a person of any sex (note term "Parent") displays signs of being a victim, at least at the Children's Hospital Westmead, which I would assume follows NSW procedures "Domestic Violence: Indentifying and Responding" Policy, Pg 8 [22]EmRob (talk) 23:01, 7 July 2015 (AEST)
      • Has a section "DOMESTIC VIOLENCE – MEN’S BEHAVIOUR CHANGE PROGRAMS (IB2014_003)", that is entirely about addressing men as perpetrators of DV.
      • There are no sections at all for the reverse. There is no hospital policy to investigate DV against men.
        • Pages 26-29 are again, a list of amendments. "This information should be read in conjunction with the Policy and Procedures for Identifying and Responding to Domestic Violence PD2006_084. Where the information differs, the information in this bulletin applies". One cannot construe from this document linked that only male behavioural programs exist, but that the Dept of Health NSW, have to follow the standards set out in this section of the document as "'The Policy and Procedures for Identifying and Responding to Domestic Violence are being reviewed in 2013 and the advice in this Information Bulletin will be incorporated into any new Policy Directive." EmRob (talk) 00:23, 2 June 2015 (AEST)
    • NSW Domestic Violence Screening program ongoing since 2003
      • Here's another source: 100% of the screening program mandated across NSW hospitals is carried out only for women.
      • My objection to this, is in the way that their bias is built-in to their collection method and so is self-confirming. It is unscientific in its method.
    • Okay, the policy which is apparently in service is here: [23] linked to from "Domestic Violence Routine Screening" at NSW Kids and Families [24] EmRob (talk) 00:11, 8 July 2015 (AEST)
      • Ch 3.1, Pg 9-10 (Doc pg 20-21) Covers identification of DV - does not imply anywhere "only ask women". Examples of Q's for victims use "women". EmRob (talk) 00:41, 8 July 2015 (AEST)
        • It states the policy on page 10 directly "Area Health Services will introduce routine screening for domestic violence in accordance with NSW Department of Health’s protocols for all women attending Antenatal services and Early Childhood Health services and women 16 years and over attending Alcohol and Other Drugs services and Mental Health services. Routine screening will be fully introduced by December 2004." and the procedure "Routine screening involves asking all women aged 16 years and over (and all Antenatal patients and Early Childhood Health service clients) presenting to key NSW Health services about recent experiences of domestic violence, regardless of whether or not there are signs of abuse, or whether domestic violence is suspected.". I don't think there is any doubt that this is only about Women & Children. It's quite obvious from the policy, the procedures and the resultant reporting, (all linked above), that they are not screening men and that is a deliberate choice. (talk) 19:30, 08 July 2015 (AEST)
        • Despite widely available government statistics showing around a third of DV victims being male (as above * many), they have chosen to ignore that, from the level of NSW Department of Health. (talk) 19:30, 08 July 2015 (AEST)
        • Another perspective on this, is that by failing to screen for male victims of DV, they are also actively choosing to ignore evidence that might protect women, given the range of evidence for reciprocal IPV, in which women typically come out worse off (here for example: [25] ). The notion that DV has 1 bad perpetrator and one good victim is too simplistic. (talk) 19:30, 08 July 2015 (AEST)
          • 1. You are reading from Ch 3.1.1 Preventative Screening 2. Your "evidence above" is only the PSS 2011 which was not available in 2006 when this policy was formed. 3. While interesting, and a valid point about "both parties" an investigation of US statistics is not necessarily relevant. In the NSW Death Review, where victims were identified as both abusers and abusees, the homicide rate was roughly equal (3 each from memory) EmRob (talk) 21:31, 8 July 2015 (AEST)
      • Ch 3.1.1, pg 10-11 (doc 21-22) "Routine Screening" - in grey "Policy" box: "Routine screening for domestic violence is a prevention strategy which provides information to at risk populations ..." - from the evidence in Ch 1 and Ch 1.1 the dept has decided that at risk populations are pregnant women, women with children, and women with mental health and substance issues. (The Department of Health also has a similar view - Ch 7.7.1 [26]) Clearly the pregnant and with children women also covers screening for children at risk of the DV too. Additionally, this is a Preventative screening program, that is, it aims to prevent abuse. It is not a survey of population, but a targeted program to aide people most at risk, particularly of injury and death. One does not complain that BreastScreen is only offered to women over 50 despite younger women getting breast cancer, as the screening process is set up as women over 50 are at higher risk of breast cancer. EmRob (talk) 00:41, 8 July 2015 (AEST)

Racially Discriminatory Government Processes and Services

  • A primarily Aboriginal/Torres Straight Islander DV issue, is that in cases where the children are considered to be in danger, DOCS does try to place the children with other family or relatives, mostly grandmothers or similar. This is a good thing, but the issue is that as compared to placing them in a foster home, the foster home would get paid to take a child on, but the in-culture preferred alternative would not. Basically, the funding model still supports ripping aboriginal kids out of their own culture because they won't pay to support in-culture care.

Policy implementation

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