Minutes/Campaigns Committee/2012-08-26

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[26/08 20:04:37] <Rundll> so, call to order the first meeting of the campaigns committee, lets start
[26/08 20:04:52] <DavidCampbell> let us begin
[26/08 20:05:03] <DavidCampbell> who is in attendance first?
[26/08 20:05:12] <Rundll> essentially I'll be running this committee in the same form as the NC,
[26/08 20:05:36] <Rundll> myself and wlp are the only members i'm aware of
[26/08 20:05:46] <wlp> exclusive club
[26/08 20:05:56] <Mozart> Little bit gay.
[26/08 20:06:08] <wlp> i'm the general designer incase anyone isn't aware :)
[26/08 20:06:16] <Rundll> mozart's press club of one
[26/08 20:06:19] <DavidCampbell> I am now aware
[26/08 20:06:24] <DavidCampbell> thanks wlp
[26/08 20:06:25] <Rundll> any way
[26/08 20:07:11] <Rundll> So, I'll call meetings, post agendas for review and additional business, run meetings, log minutes etc
[26/08 20:08:10] <Rundll> david and wlp I assume you've both got the agenda
[26/08 20:08:15] <wlp> yup
[26/08 20:08:18] <DavidCampbell> yes
[26/08 20:08:53] <Rundll> first item: Recommend the appointment of David Campbell to the CC
[26/08 20:09:01] <Rundll> to go to the NC for vote
[26/08 20:09:06] <Rundll> and declare all previous members except Thomas Randle and Sam Clark vacant
[26/08 20:09:25] <Rundll> discussion?
[26/08 20:09:39] <wlp> sounds fine to me
[26/08 20:09:51] <Rundll> essentially an official clean up
[26/08 20:09:54] <DavidCampbell> has already happened as far as NC is concerned
[26/08 20:10:05] <Rundll> wonderful, haha
[26/08 20:12:32] <Rundll> Motion that: Campaigns committee recommends to the NC to appoint David Campbell to the Campaigns committee, and declare all previous committee member except Thomas Randle and Sam Clark vacant.
[26/08 20:12:45] <Rundll> aye
[26/08 20:12:54] <wlp> aye
[26/08 20:13:02] <Rundll> motion passes
[26/08 20:13:04] <Rundll> and we're off
[26/08 20:13:09] <wlp> hah
[26/08 20:13:25] <Rundll> agenda item 2: Party Registration Campaign - Thomas, Sam, David
[26/08 20:13:37] <Rundll> I added this today
[26/08 20:14:28] <Rundll> but it was already covered in some form by other items, except a second thought on it makes me think we should do this as a seperate project
[26/08 20:15:07] <DavidCampbell> seperate project is a good idea, easy to lose this, quite important from an external perspective on the party
[26/08 20:15:16] <Rundll> essentially I'd hope they'd be enough time to do a lot of other things first, realistically we just need to be ready for it
[26/08 20:15:45] <wlp> yeah exactly
[26/08 20:15:46] <DavidCampbell> we can delegate though
[26/08 20:15:52] <wlp> what kind of scope were you thinking?
[26/08 20:16:08] <DavidCampbell> realistically we just need to have this on a burner of sorts and push it out to creative
[26/08 20:16:31] <wlp> yeah
[26/08 20:16:43] <DavidCampbell> and then get regular updates from said creative
[26/08 20:17:40] <Rundll> So i'd like to get a party introduction video out at the same time, but that comes down to resources
[26/08 20:17:49] <Rundll> if there's people we can put to work we will
[26/08 20:17:57] <wlp> yeah
[26/08 20:17:58] <DavidCampbell> do we want to form a work group for our "debut"
[26/08 20:18:20] <wlp> has there been any volunteers, video-wise?
[26/08 20:18:31] <Rundll> at least 2
[26/08 20:18:47] <DavidCampbell> Only one I can think of who is competant with this kind of thing is David Haidon
[26/08 20:19:01] <DavidCampbell> others I have not chatted with/ met in person
[26/08 20:19:21] <DavidCampbell> who are the other 2?
[26/08 20:19:24] <Rundll> I chatted with a few the other night david, brendan put a twitter call out and I got a few emails from people out of it
[26/08 20:19:42] <Rundll> later in tonights meeting we'll discuss people and roles
[26/08 20:19:55] <wlp> I can contribute to that project, though i don't think i want to run it
[26/08 20:19:57] <wlp> yeah cool
[26/08 20:20:48] <Rundll> Sounds good
[26/08 20:21:05] <wlp> in terms of the 'debut'
[26/08 20:21:15] <Rundll> We'll just keep walking through the propsed work program, and then I'll motion we accept it
[26/08 20:21:48] <Rundll> next work item
[26/08 20:21:51] <Rundll> Corporate Identity - Sam
[26/08 20:21:55] <wlp> ok
[26/08 20:22:06] <Rundll> update or what needs to happen now?
[26/08 20:22:10] <wlp> so firstly i agree with you on the name change
[26/08 20:22:23] <DavidCampbell> it's very important we identify confusing area's and nail out easy explanations for them
[26/08 20:22:31] <DavidCampbell> sorry lag
[26/08 20:22:33] <DavidCampbell> ignore
[26/08 20:22:43] <Rundll> mmm ok david
[26/08 20:23:17] <wlp> from my point of view, it's pretty much finished
[26/08 20:23:31] <DavidCampbell> do you have a link to the most up to date draft?
[26/08 20:23:38] <wlp> just waiting on getting the logo files uploaded to the PPAU server
[26/08 20:23:40] <wlp> one sec
[26/08 20:23:51] <wlp> https://pirateparty.org.au/wiki/Corporate_Identity
[26/08 20:23:52] <stbernard> Title: Corporate Identity - Pirate Party Australia Wiki (at pirateparty.org.au)
[26/08 20:24:15] <wlp> I also havent gotten much feedback either, so if stuff needs changing I am open to that too
[26/08 20:25:10] <DavidCampbell> is it worth making state party guidelines similar to those from the NC meeting discussing state branding?
[26/08 20:25:57] <wlp> i missed that meeting
[26/08 20:26:07] <DavidCampbell> let me dig it up
[26/08 20:26:10] <DavidCampbell> gimme a sec
[26/08 20:26:15] <Rundll> I'm not familiar with that NC meeting either david
[26/08 20:26:34] <DavidCampbell> it might only be in openpad, may not have moved to wiki yet
[26/08 20:27:29] <wlp> the other thing that happened with the Corporate Identity which is something to be aware of
[26/08 20:27:45] <wlp> I updated the stars on all the PPAU logos...
[26/08 20:27:55] <wlp> no longer wonky/hand drawn
[26/08 20:28:06] <wlp> brendan approved
[26/08 20:28:35] <DavidCampbell> ah nice
[26/08 20:28:37] <DavidCampbell> Brand Use Policy
[26/08 20:28:38] <DavidCampbell> * Any use of Pirate Party Australia logos must be approved by the National Council
[26/08 20:28:38] <DavidCampbell> * The logo may not be modified in any way, including font, colour, proportion, etc
[26/08 20:28:38] <DavidCampbell> * The logo must be used in accordance with the Corporate Identity guidelines
[26/08 20:28:58] <DavidCampbell> Party Naming Scheme
[26/08 20:28:58] <DavidCampbell> Formal name: Pirate Party Australia (<state/territory> Branch)
[26/08 20:28:58] <DavidCampbell> Formal abbreviation: Pirate Party
[26/08 20:28:58] <DavidCampbell> Informal short form*: Pirate Party <state/territory>
[26/08 20:28:58] <DavidCampbell> Short abbreviation form: PPAU-<state/territory abbrev capitalised>
[26/08 20:28:59] <DavidCampbell> *: States may also be shortened to an acronym in informal short form if possible.
[26/08 20:29:01] <DavidCampbell> Example:
[26/08 20:29:03] <DavidCampbell> Pirate Party Australia (ACT Branch)
[26/08 20:29:06] <DavidCampbell> Pirate Party
[26/08 20:29:08] <DavidCampbell> Pirate Party ACT
[26/08 20:29:10] <DavidCampbell> PPAU-ACT
[26/08 20:29:12] <DavidCampbell> Pirate Party Australia (Queensland Branch)
[26/08 20:29:14] <DavidCampbell> Pirate Party
[26/08 20:29:17] <DavidCampbell> Pirate Party Queensland
[26/08 20:29:19] <DavidCampbell> PPAU-QLD
[26/08 20:29:21] <DavidCampbell> Pirate Party Australia (Victoria Branch)
[26/08 20:29:23] <DavidCampbell> Pirate Party
[26/08 20:29:25] <DavidCampbell> Pirate Party Victoria
[26/08 20:29:28] <DavidCampbell> PPAU-VIC
[26/08 20:29:34] <DavidCampbell> do we want that in the branding guide, with respect for logos for state branches?
[26/08 20:29:41] <DavidCampbell> those are draft naming schemes
[26/08 20:30:04] <DavidCampbell> I'm happy to leave them out, just thought they were worth mentioning
[26/08 20:30:19] <wlp> nah worth mentioning
[26/08 20:30:28] <wlp> so I am thinking...
[26/08 20:30:31] <Rundll> naming schemes look fine to me, I'm worried about logos for state branches, and my first thought is to say no
[26/08 20:31:06] <wlp> maybe at a later stage we can have a branding wiki and link to other branding related pages including state naming, style guides etc
[26/08 20:31:58] <Rundll> I don't think any state branch shuold be coming up with their own logo any time soon
[26/08 20:32:09] <DavidCampbell> ACT did it
[26/08 20:32:14] <DavidCampbell> they did it nicely
[26/08 20:32:19] <DavidCampbell> therefor we didn't mind
[26/08 20:32:38] <DavidCampbell> basically the ppa logo from the homepage, but with act isntead of australia
[26/08 20:33:29] <wlp> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2941448/PPAU_ACT5%282%29.pdf
[26/08 20:33:30] <Rundll> can I get a copy of both of these? wlp your latest changes and the act version
[26/08 20:33:45] <wlp> the logo files?
[26/08 20:34:06] <Rundll> yes please
[26/08 20:34:16] <wlp> do you have dropbox?
[26/08 20:34:26] <wlp> there's 44 different logo files hah
[26/08 20:34:38] <wlp> brendan and i have a shared folder running atm
[26/08 20:34:46] <Rundll> I only need to see one with the stars changes
[26/08 20:34:55] <wlp> oh ok one sec
[26/08 20:36:13] <Rundll> Ok, david I thought for a moment act had gone off and made their of logo out of the ppau flag, changing the text in the way they have there is fine
[26/08 20:36:34] <Rundll> on the same page now
[26/08 20:36:49] <wlp> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2941448/ppauLogo-australia.png
[26/08 20:37:21] <wlp> oh i have it in different versions too… that's the PNG
[26/08 20:37:28] <wlp> also have it in SVG or AI
[26/08 20:38:25] <Rundll> thats fine thanks wlp
[26/08 20:38:29] <wlp> the ACT one I havent updated the stars and currently just have it in SVG or AI
[26/08 20:40:29] <wlp> So I guess back on getting the CI finished...
[26/08 20:41:00] <wlp> changing it to 'Identity Style Guide' I agree on
[26/08 20:41:12] <wlp> and then it's just the matter of getting the images on there
[26/08 20:41:16] <DavidCampbell> same
[26/08 20:41:23] <wlp> is Nick the person for that?
[26/08 20:41:30] <DavidCampbell> yes
[26/08 20:41:38] <DavidCampbell> Nick, ftp bitch
[26/08 20:41:42] <wlp> haha
[26/08 20:41:48] <Nick> DavidCampbell: i have not been told anything, bitch
[26/08 20:42:03] <Nick> (nor given anything)
[26/08 20:42:20] <wlp> Ahh ok Brendan is at fault then ;)
[26/08 20:42:34] <Rundll> thank you nick, we will sort that for you shortly
[26/08 20:43:31] <Rundll> next work item
[26/08 20:43:32] <Rundll> Social media branding review - Sam and Thomas
[26/08 20:44:02] <Rundll> basically we need to go over all the different platform, work out who is running them
[26/08 20:44:24] <Rundll> and Sam, the main task I'll have in here for you is producing a fix set of styles for each platform
[26/08 20:44:43] <DavidCampbell> until said platform updates
[26/08 20:44:49] <wlp> haha
[26/08 20:44:56] <Rundll> exactly
[26/08 20:45:06] <wlp> so are we wanting to change the look that they currently have?
[26/08 20:45:15] <wlp> or just have it written down someone as guidelines
[26/08 20:45:15] <Rundll> absolutely
[26/08 20:45:23] <Rundll> we're changing it
[26/08 20:45:27] <wlp> ok cool
[26/08 20:45:31] <DavidCampbell> yeah, they all currently look like crap
[26/08 20:45:34] <DavidCampbell> basically
[26/08 20:46:06] <wlp> ok i think i might actually enjoy this task
[26/08 20:46:18] <DavidCampbell> *high five*
[26/08 20:46:19] <Rundll> good
[26/08 20:46:30] <Rundll> i'm got a doc I share with you later sam
[26/08 20:46:36] <wlp> cool
[26/08 20:46:43] <Rundll> but at the moment I've just had a look around for some good styling
[26/08 20:47:17] <Rundll> you can help me collect a few more and then you can come up with one or two
[26/08 20:47:32] <wlp> sure thing
[26/08 20:47:46] <wlp> haha looking at PPAU's Twitter… breaking my CI rules grrr
[26/08 20:47:49] <Rundll> but essentially I'd like the colour scheme behind the facebook banner to be the same as the backgroun colour on twitter, things like that
[26/08 20:48:02] <Rundll> I know, I cringed too
[26/08 20:48:26] <Rundll> So i'd like you to take the lead on that one
[26/08 20:48:34] <wlp> sure  thing
[26/08 20:48:40] <Rundll> and i'll work with NC to find out where all the accounts are
[26/08 20:49:07] <Rundll> Website redevelopment strategy - Thomas
[26/08 20:49:24] <Rundll> so
[26/08 20:49:29] <Rundll> buz word time
[26/08 20:49:41] <DavidCampbell> promote synergy
[26/08 20:49:42] <Rundll> we need a more engaging web presence
[26/08 20:49:54] <DavidCampbell> web 3.0
[26/08 20:50:19] <DavidCampbell> we need it to be less busy as well
[26/08 20:51:06] <Rundll> actually david I think it can be more busy, but it needs context seperation by visual layers
[26/08 20:51:13] <Rundll> :)
[26/08 20:52:02] <Rundll> currently, the website is a press release feed. the content in the pr's are great, but once they fall off they're lost
[26/08 20:52:29] <Rundll> we need to bring that context and that issues education back up the chain
[26/08 20:53:04] <DavidCampbell> we could do with burying some stuff that doesnt need to be on the front page as well though
[26/08 20:53:24] <DavidCampbell> like the constitution, you cant even find that with a search on the liberal page hah
[26/08 20:53:50] <DavidCampbell> its good we have it nice and available, but it doesnt have to be a main menu item
[26/08 20:54:17] <Rundll> there's some info architecture work needed, but we'll come to that through a process
[26/08 20:54:34] <Rundll> which is what i'm coming up with in this first block of work
[26/08 20:54:41] <Rundll> but this also comes back to timings
[26/08 20:54:52] <Rundll> or timing issues
[26/08 20:55:14] <Rundll> I would like desperately to have some changes in place by party registration
[26/08 20:55:58] <Rundll> that will be challenging, but I'm absolutely convinced we have to get it done
[26/08 20:57:55] <DavidCampbell> anything we actually need to discuss on this or just to say its in progress?
[26/08 20:58:07] <Rundll> ummm
[26/08 20:58:59] <DavidCampbell> brb making perpermint tea for wife
[26/08 20:59:05] <DavidCampbell> *whip crack*
[26/08 20:59:30] <Rundll> Slow parts will be stakeholder consulting, IA, wireframing, GD, content.
[26/08 20:59:55] <Rundll> I'm think two bursts, one for before party registration, one for after election announcement
[26/08 21:00:08] <Rundll> that'll be my proposal
[26/08 21:00:44] <Rundll> moving on
[26/08 21:00:45] <Rundll> Data retention and surveillance campaigns - Thomas
[26/08 21:00:56] <Rundll> this also ties in with
[26/08 21:01:00] <Rundll> Federal Election Strategy (2013 hopefully)  - Thomas
[26/08 21:01:15] <Rundll> which the Elections Committee can help with
[26/08 21:01:32] <Rundll> and also the Party introduction video we talked about at the start
[26/08 21:01:37] <Rundll> so
[26/08 21:01:48] <Rundll> we need documented knowledge
[26/08 21:01:59] <Rundll> on the facts around these issues in AU
[26/08 21:02:39] <Rundll> pull apart our nat sec submission is probably one of the best places to start
[26/08 21:02:44] <Rundll> *pulling
[26/08 21:02:51] <wlp> agreed
[26/08 21:03:12] <Rundll> essentially what we need to stuff into our campaigns is already contained in some form in there
[26/08 21:05:39] <Rundll> so David, I reckon this would be a good area you can help me with
[26/08 21:08:15] <Rundll> while david is way
[26/08 21:08:27] <Rundll> Previous efforts review
[26/08 21:09:02] <Rundll> I'd just like to put before the NC to make sure everyone there has seen and can help inform us of all the previous activities in the campaigns area
[26/08 21:09:29] <Rundll> simply by spamming the mine or the campaigns' email address
[26/08 21:09:34] <Rundll> with past activites
[26/08 21:10:27] <wlp> yeah im sure that's something that can happen
[26/08 21:10:56] <wlp> my first project was the ACT stuff as far as i remember
[26/08 21:11:44] <Rundll> yeah, so those are the types of work I'd like to know about
[26/08 21:13:38] <DavidCampbell> back reading
[26/08 21:15:01] <DavidCampbell> campaigns have been few and far inbetween, and will be poorly documented as everyone was probably too busy actually doing it and then moving onto the next horribly understaffed campaign
[26/08 21:15:33] <DavidCampbell> I'll get a list compiled for you guys of recent stuff though
[26/08 21:15:48] <Rundll> I do understand that, anything to help inform, would be great
[26/08 21:16:00] <Rundll> back to Federal Election Strategy (2013 hopefully)
[26/08 21:16:31] <Rundll> david can you inform me about the Elections Committee
[26/08 21:16:32] <Rundll> ?
[26/08 21:16:43] <Rundll> I saw it in an email, I know little about it
[26/08 21:17:26] <DavidCampbell> it is less developed than this one, yet to have an initial meeting
[26/08 21:18:13] <DavidCampbell> but basically a commitee to focus on the election and decide what we need to focus on, for said elections
[26/08 21:18:32] <Nick> iirc it's only pencilled in still
[26/08 21:19:14] <DavidCampbell> yes
[26/08 21:19:21] <Rundll> cool, well it sounds like there could be some good coordination and spreading the load
[26/08 21:19:21] <DavidCampbell> curently it exists only in the abstract
[26/08 21:20:03] <Rundll> I'd like to not have to deal with candidate based issues on the campaigns front and focus more on working out the overall strategy
[26/08 21:21:19] <DavidCampbell> it will basically comprise of all of the state coordinators and preselected members for elections
[26/08 21:21:50] <DavidCampbell> I'm hoping to organie a first meeting this week
[26/08 21:22:09] <DavidCampbell> as I beleive I will be chairing it
[26/08 21:22:44] <Rundll> ok, so david, you're happy to be on Federal Election Strategy with me and the soon to be Elections Committee as a starting point for this task?
[26/08 21:23:05] <DavidCampbell> yup, sounds like a good place to start
[26/08 21:24:22] <Rundll> so, that concludes the work program I've come up with
[26/08 21:26:12] <wlp> shall we summarise actionable items or is everybody good?
[26/08 21:26:20] <Rundll> just doing that
[26/08 21:26:39] <DavidCampbell> I'm good, let us know when your good to move on
[26/08 21:27:10] <Rundll> Motion that the Campaigns Committee accept the following work program
[26/08 21:27:10] <Rundll> Party Registration Campaign - Thomas, Sam, David
[26/08 21:27:10] <Rundll> Corporate Identity - Sam
[26/08 21:27:10] <Rundll> Social media branding review - Sam and Thomas
[26/08 21:27:10] <Rundll> Website redevelopment strategy - Thomas
[26/08 21:27:10] <Rundll> Data retention and surveillance campaigns - Thomas
[26/08 21:27:10] <Rundll> Federal Election Strategy (2013 hopefully)  - Thomas, David
[26/08 21:27:10] <Rundll> Previous efforts review - Thomas, David
[26/08 21:27:24] <Rundll> any final discussion beofre a vote
[26/08 21:27:40] <wlp> nothing on my end
[26/08 21:27:51] <Rundll> voting open
[26/08 21:27:53] <Rundll> aye
[26/08 21:27:58] <wlp> aye
[26/08 21:28:01] <DavidCampbell> aye
[26/08 21:28:05] <Rundll> motion passes
[26/08 21:28:11] <Rundll> final item
[26/08 21:28:17] <Rundll> Agenda Item 3: Campaigns Committee positions - Thomas
[26/08 21:29:45] <Rundll> The main part of the item is the creation of a Creative Services Work Group
[26/08 21:29:50] <Rundll> under the CC
[26/08 21:30:19] <Rundll> which we as a committee can have people work in, help out in their own time
[26/08 21:30:30] <wlp> yeah i actually do like the sound of this… if we ever get overwhelmed it will come in handy
[26/08 21:30:43] <wlp> trial basis point is a good one
[26/08 21:31:42] <Rundll> the other two points
[26/08 21:31:58] <Rundll> are about developing the positions to reduce or take load off of other people they shouldn't be on
[26/08 21:32:22] <Rundll> and helping form up our committees function in the party
[26/08 21:33:23] <Rundll> the main action item here is for myself to come up with the basic roles we need filled
[26/08 21:34:10] <Rundll> and then finding a place for all those capable of helping the party with their skills or interests
[26/08 21:34:21] <Rundll> David, what are your thoughts?
[26/08 21:35:00] <DavidCampbell> thinking
[26/08 21:36:07] <DavidCampbell> seems like a good idea, do we want to work on that right now
[26/08 21:36:29] <DavidCampbell> this would overlap with most of our stuff
[26/08 21:36:29] <Rundll> I think we need to get the positions sorted
[26/08 21:36:43] <DavidCampbell> okay so obviously we need someone to lead the work group
[26/08 21:36:52] <Rundll> no
[26/08 21:37:13] <DavidCampbell> you want to deal with all members of the work group individually?
[26/08 21:37:22] <Rundll> I think the programs we run under the committee, simply fall to people available 
[26/08 21:37:46] <Rundll> so each of us, is responsible for the work program where resources are needed
[26/08 21:38:36] <DavidCampbell> and we decide which projects take precedent over others
[26/08 21:39:12] <DavidCampbell> but use the cswg to cluster them together easier
[26/08 21:39:42] <Rundll> yes, but working with group, essentially we're all members of that group as well
[26/08 21:39:52] <DavidCampbell> idealy yes
[26/08 21:40:24] <DavidCampbell> although I warn you, I am quite artistically challanged :D
[26/08 21:41:38] <Rundll> I really want to make sure there's a zero friction way new people can get involved
[26/08 21:41:41] <Rundll> in our group
[26/08 21:42:18] <wlp> yea i agree… make it as easy as possible for people to bring their skills in to play
[26/08 21:42:26] <DavidCampbell> agreed
[26/08 21:43:03] <Rundll> because I don't have video editing skills, but if we can put a director and animator together with a storeboard we've got waiting
[26/08 21:43:08] <Rundll> we could see some magic
[26/08 21:44:05] <DavidCampbell> so we hold a centralised open pad of live projects perhaps?
[26/08 21:44:19] <DavidCampbell> so people can just leap in?
[26/08 21:44:45] <Rundll> hmmm, yeah we'll need to work out something like that
[26/08 21:45:37] <Rundll> So
[26/08 21:46:12] <DavidCampbell> how do we streamline induction?
[26/08 21:46:34] <Rundll> "what are you good at" "x" "go over there" :P
[26/08 21:46:55] <DavidCampbell> we could have our own mailing list setup by Nick perhaps
[26/08 21:47:20] <Rundll> they're like the answer to every now they're working eh?
[26/08 21:47:31] <wlp> i guess if we were to have an open pad with current projects, could chuck that url in the header of our IRC room, and then hopefully we could get our room in the header of the PPAU room
[26/08 21:48:16] <DavidCampbell> pretty much
[26/08 21:48:23] <Rundll> This almost sounds a little more wiki-ish
[26/08 21:48:24] <wlp> promote that through twitter etc.
[26/08 21:48:33] <DavidCampbell> fyi I'd like this wrapped up in the next 15 if we can
[26/08 21:48:41] <Rundll> this is the last item
[26/08 21:48:48] <DavidCampbell> yes
[26/08 21:49:01] <DavidCampbell> just stating :D
[26/08 21:49:12] <DavidCampbell> and yes, email lists are the answer to alot of things
[26/08 21:49:27] <wlp> so a wiki page outlining what needs to get done, who to report to etc ?
[26/08 21:49:46] <DavidCampbell> but I think it would work really well for people who are creatives and barely know how to email, I dont want to make Wiki's the hurdle they cannot jump
[26/08 21:50:15] <DavidCampbell> something more like an openpad would be easier
[26/08 21:51:14] <DavidCampbell> email is easy, everyone can do it and everyone who is a member should be able to do it
[26/08 21:51:24] <DavidCampbell> wiki's are a little harder, they have markup and that makes people scared
[26/08 21:51:48] <DavidCampbell> I'm channeling the lowest common denominator here
[26/08 21:52:26] <DavidCampbell> I just think wiki's would be too hard pile, but mailing lists are easy, and an openpad is easy
[26/08 21:52:35] <DavidCampbell> thoughts?
[26/08 21:53:37] <DavidCampbell> even using google docs could be nice, then we could cluster the documents and files in folders
[26/08 21:53:51] <Rundll> yes, that was my other thought
[26/08 21:53:57] <DavidCampbell> obviously not the video files, but storyboarding etc would fit
[26/08 21:54:09] <DavidCampbell> I am biased as I already pay for the 100gb package with google docs
[26/08 21:54:16] <wlp> yeah tbh openpad doesnt always look that professional/organised
[26/08 21:54:27] <wlp> whereas google docs does i guess
[26/08 21:54:27] <DavidCampbell> Im going for simple
[26/08 21:54:49] <Rundll> writing final motion for tongiht
[26/08 21:55:58] <Rundll> david I'm thinking this should go to the NC as part of it, just to make sure, thoughts?
[26/08 21:56:42] <DavidCampbell> yeah, worth putting forward to them
[26/08 21:57:02] <DavidCampbell> the workgroup part sure, as I am president though and part of this group, I have the power anyway
[26/08 21:57:25] <DavidCampbell> I'd like to at least mention it to the NC for blessing etc
[26/08 21:58:06] <Rundll> Motion that the Campaigns Committee create a Creative Services Work Group following the approval of the National Council for the purposes of providing a working area for media production services within the Party, the work group will allow Party members to participate in the activities of the Campaigns Committee where their time allows without becoming full members of the Campaigns Committee. This gives the Campaigns Committee the ability to trial members and their efforts before being appointed to the Campaigns Committee. The Campaigns Committee will be responsible for managing the Creative Services Work Group subject to the work program of the Campaigns Committee.
[26/08 21:59:12] <DavidCampbell> discussion?
[26/08 21:59:16] <Rundll> yep
[26/08 21:59:18] <Rundll> any?
[26/08 21:59:45] <wlp> not from me
[26/08 21:59:52] <DavidCampbell> I think we are all on board with this motion
[26/08 22:00:11] <Rundll> ok, voting open
[26/08 22:00:15] <wlp> aye
[26/08 22:00:17] <Rundll> aye
[26/08 22:00:23] <DavidCampbell> aye
[26/08 22:00:28] <Rundll> motion passes
[26/08 22:00:35] <Rundll> one final motion, sorry david
[26/08 22:00:44] <DavidCampbell> np
[26/08 22:01:16] <Rundll> not under the works program, but just for me to develop the positions and put them to the NC to go on the website asap
[26/08 22:02:20] <DavidCampbell> as in the positions available page?
[26/08 22:02:23] <Rundll> yes
[26/08 22:02:28] <DavidCampbell> motion it
[26/08 22:02:37] <DavidCampbell> I dont think it really needs discussion
[26/08 22:04:33] <Rundll> Motion that the Campaigns Committee develop and provide updated positions within the committee to the National Council as soon as possible and develop a process for merchandise purchasing and distribution by an individual or persons to be appointed, following an approval process by both the Campaigns Committee and the Treasurer/TreasurerSec.
[26/08 22:04:39] <Rundll> discussion?
[26/08 22:04:46] <Brendan> denied
[26/08 22:04:52] <Rundll> go away
[26/08 22:04:54] <Brendan> what's a TreasurerSec?
[26/08 22:05:00] <DavidCampbell> trollin
[26/08 22:05:01] <Rundll> other way around
[26/08 22:05:23] <Brendan> I'd say this is an action item
[26/08 22:05:28] <Brendan> not worthy of motioning
[26/08 22:05:36] <DavidCampbell> agreed
[26/08 22:05:41] <Brendan> but
[26/08 22:05:45] <Brendan> it would have to be approved by the NC
[26/08 22:05:47] <DavidCampbell> your but
[26/08 22:05:52] <DavidCampbell> yes
[26/08 22:05:53] <DavidCampbell> so
[26/08 22:05:56] <DavidCampbell> action item
[26/08 22:06:16] <Rundll> two action items then
[26/08 22:06:42] <DavidCampbell> develop positions, deliver to nc
[26/08 22:07:14] <Rundll> develop process for merchandise purchasing, deliver to nc
[26/08 22:08:07] <Rundll> I'll do both of those
[26/08 22:08:20] <Rundll> unless one of you two put your hands up
[26/08 22:08:23] <DavidCampbell> request mailinglist from nick -> I'll sort it
[26/08 22:08:31] <DavidCampbell> I can do the delivery part
[26/08 22:08:36] <DavidCampbell> seeing how I'm going there anyway
[26/08 22:08:52] <Rundll> thank you, haha
[26/08 22:09:01] <Rundll> any other business?
[26/08 22:09:03] <Brendan> mailing list for why
[26/08 22:09:30] <DavidCampbell> forthe creative work group, keep them hearded and its easy for non techies
[26/08 22:09:36] <Brendan> ok
[26/08 22:09:41] <DavidCampbell> bam
[26/08 22:10:15] <Rundll> we're done then
[26/08 22:10:20] <DavidCampbell> as for google docs, what have we decided there
[26/08 22:10:29] <Rundll> umm
[26/08 22:10:29] <DavidCampbell> or have we ust decided that something like that should be decided?
[26/08 22:10:52] <DavidCampbell> I'd like to get a shared folder off the ground etc
[26/08 22:11:20] <Brendan> if you're going to be putting any Pirate Party assets anywhere, inform me first.
[26/08 22:11:22] <DavidCampbell> I have space, I can deal with it for now, or we request an account to host space like this from the NC
[26/08 22:11:39] <Brendan> gotsa document where all the shit is
[26/08 22:11:45] <DavidCampbell> yes
[26/08 22:11:47] <Brendan> and I'd rather we move away from using Google where possible
[26/08 22:11:47] <DavidCampbell> so Brendan
[26/08 22:11:52] <Brendan> we're rather reliant on it now as it is
[26/08 22:12:04] <Rundll> we can create and share a docs folder for everyong with an apps account
[26/08 22:12:05] <DavidCampbell> your opinion on hosting data for creative services work group
[26/08 22:12:11] <DavidCampbell> ftp?
[26/08 22:12:13] <DavidCampbell> drop box?
[26/08 22:12:17] <Brendan> http://sparkleshare.org/
[26/08 22:12:20] <stbernard> Title: SparkleShare - Sharing work made easy (at sparkleshare.org)
[26/08 22:12:24] <Brendan> I might try setting up one of these on a VPS somewhere
[26/08 22:12:27] <Brendan> FOSS dropbox
[26/08 22:12:29] <Brendan> :)
[26/08 22:12:44] <DavidCampbell> okay, is that a pipe dream or is there an eta on that?
[26/08 22:12:59] <Rundll> Lets just work on the until next time
[26/08 22:13:01] <Brendan> for now, dropbox.
[26/08 22:13:20] <Brendan> but even then, doesn't need to be set in stone right now
[26/08 22:13:21] <Rundll> final call for end of meeting
[26/08 22:13:27] <DavidCampbell> done
[26/08 22:13:32] <DavidCampbell> end it
[26/08 22:13:34] <Rundll> meetings closed, thank you