Federal Election 2025/Preselection Meeting 2024-06-02/Minutes
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Preselection meeting 2nd June 2024
Start: 3pm AEST
Welcome
- Business commenced approx 3:05
- Questions around quorum - there isn't one for this
- Simon wonders if he could put forward another candidate
- ChatGPT roleplaying as a candidate
- the Secretary determined that the prospective candidate was not actually present at the meeting and had not lodged a nomination prior to the start of the meeting
- Standing orders agreed to (15:12)
Attendance
- Miles Whiticker (President)
- Alex Jago (Secretary, CHAIR)
- Owen Miller (prospective candidate)
- Simon Gnieslaw (member)
- Andrew Downing (member)
Nominations received
- Owen Miller, for Wills (Victoria)
Nomination speeches
Owen Miller for Wills (15:15)
- Seconded by Alex Jago
- Living in Brunswick E, which looks like it will be in Wills
- Professional background: CompSci/robotics, moved to Seattle with Amazon, NY in consulting, startups, now in NFTs, which let me move back to Australia
- Melbourne is vibrant!
- In the US I got more politically aware - what aspects of our culture can be changed?
- In 2020 I founded the Non-Human Party to stand up for animal & robot/AI rights
- By embracing a more software-first government we can do a lot better in terms of efficiency and effectiveness
- Covid as an example, the govt doesn't have much in house expertise
- marketing budget on covid app far exceeded developent cost - due to perception
- Contrast Estonia which has focused on tech literacy, up to digital residency
- Best country in Europe for doing business!
- It's received some tax-haven criticism but it has its welfare system still and a happiness ranking above IT or ES!
- Since joining Fusion I've focused more on digital innovation
- See eg my Senate submission a few years ago or our AI submission earlier this week
- Since joining the Pirates specifically my eyes have been opened to UBI, copyright reform, enshittification
- In conclusion I think I have a strong affinity for Pirate and Fusion values
- In terms of Wills, I chose to live here. And I meet the stereotypes - I'm a gay immigrant cyclist!
Q&A
- Miles: Open-source is core to the platform but we don't always discuss it. Can you talk about your relationship with OS?
- Owen: Take banking for example. A login form for a bank seems like a solved problem but they all have to do it again. Why can't we just share the code? The incentives aren't always there. Of course, FOSS can succeed - see Linux. crypto. So in talking about a commons tragedy, governments are best placed to resolve that. In my ideal situation all govt created software should be open-sourced. Why should the benefits be limited just to using it? Also good for trust. And it even allows us to improve services - see the GovZero movement in Taiwan, where user-created websites became official.
- Andrew: going back to the banking eample - how do you think the AU govt digital ID system works with that?
- Owen: with Non-Human Party I was hoping to use OpenID with their Australian government account. Often today we use phone numbers as a method of keeping one account, one person. But the government has a register of births, deaths & marriages, so they're the best positioned people to de-duplicate citizens. So I asked if I could get this - I was disallowed. Now it might be more possible. Compare using Google for OIDC.
- Andrew: on education, did you notice that Singapore introduced some new education for digital left-behinds. Should we bring that here?
- Owen: sounds well-meaning. I remember in the crypto boom, in the Coinbase app there were offers to get $1 USD of a new coin if you went through that tutorial. So I'm skeptical about throwing money at this. If they don't care they don't care, and if they do they'll self-educate. Oh, and the government has a history of giving out bad advice.
- Miles: we've got a lot of interest in Victoria at a council level. What are your thoughts on using your federal campaign to intersect with local?
- Owen: well, Yarra now looks like it will overlap with Wills. I've been focused on getting the Fusion website redone rather than work on local govt things but it's time.
Floor vote
- MOTION: support Owen's candidacy and proceed to Victorian membership vote
- Ayes (Alex Jago, Andrew Downing, Miles Whiticker, Simon Gnieslaw)
- Motion carried 15:43.
Meeting admin
- Miles: interested in streamlining preselection processes within Pirates. Everyone else in Fusion is just exec endorsement. So I'm interested in options there - can the Presel meeting be replaced with just NC endorsement prior to going out to Pirate memberships? Alternatively can the Pirate membership approval requirement be met by Fusion membership approval?
- Andrew: if a candidate is endorsed at a Fusion level we support them right?
- Process is for Pirates to endorse, then Fusion
- Alex remembers we need an Returning Officer
Appointment of RO
- Andrew Downing appointed as RO pending NC ratification.
Close
- The Secretary thanked members for attendance.
- Recording stopped 15:45